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From: "Theodore Tso" <tytso@mit.edu>
To: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
Cc: Rafael Passos <rafael@rcpassos.me>,
	Jason@zx2c4.com, andrew+netdev@lunn.ch, davem@davemloft.net,
	edumazet@google.com, kuba@kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	pabeni@redhat.com,
	syzbot+9ca7674fa7521a3f1bc2@syzkaller.appspotmail.com,
	syzkaller-bugs@googlegroups.com, wireguard@lists.zx2c4.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Wireguard: Fix data-race in rx/tx counter
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2026 22:34:17 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <akHY4UEa1ab2PF-j@mit.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aa423184-7465-4bc9-aff4-d3d671beb3c6@lunn.ch>

On Sun, Jun 28, 2026 at 11:02:05PM -0500, Andrew Lunn wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 28, 2026 at 05:38:23PM -0300, Rafael Passos wrote:
> > fixes data-race in {rx/tx}_bytes counter for wireguard connection.
> > these values were incremented inside a read_lock_bh block, but write
> > protections were missing. making them atomic was the simplest way out.
> > This was found by syzbot with kcsan.
> 
> Atomics are expensive in general, especially on high CPU count
> systems. 
> 
> Statistic counters tend to be very asymmetric in usage. They are
> incremented frequently, maybe per packet, but reported very
> infrequently, maybe every minute when an SNMP agent reads them.

One of the reasons why kcsan and syzbot can be quite noisy is that a
human being needs to *think* and consider whether or not this is
actually important.  (One of the reasons why I'm not all that worried
about our new AI overlords taking over the world.  :-) Consider what
is the worst that might happen if the tx/rx_bytes counter might not be
completely accurate?  Is it worth the performance penalty of using
atomics (or the memory overhead of per-CPU counters)?

	    	       		   - Ted

  reply	other threads:[~2026-06-29  2:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-01 14:33 [syzbot] [wireguard?] KCSAN: data-race in wg_socket_send_skb_to_peer / wg_socket_send_skb_to_peer (9) syzbot
2026-06-22 19:34 ` Rafael Passos
2026-06-28 20:38   ` [PATCH] Wireguard: Fix data-race in rx/tx counter Rafael Passos
2026-06-28 21:02     ` Andrew Lunn
2026-06-29  2:34       ` Theodore Tso [this message]
2026-06-29  3:05         ` Rafael Passos

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