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From: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
To: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
Cc: K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	sched-ext@lists.linux.dev, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	"David S . Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Andrea Righi <arighi@nvidia.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>, Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>,
	Breno Leitao <leitao@debian.org>,
	Changwoo Min <changwoo@igalia.com>,
	David Vernet <void@manifault.com>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	John Ogness <john.ogness@linutronix.de>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <senozhatsky@chromium.org>,
	Simon Horman <horms@kernel.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Vlad Poenaru <vlad.wing@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] bug: Provide WARN_ON.*DEFERRED() macros for console deferred output
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2026 11:21:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <akOKsdOhfBBqVUhI@pathway.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260624152431.Ufq0jT8r@linutronix.de>

On Wed 2026-06-24 17:24:31, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
> On 2026-06-24 11:17:31 [+0200], Petr Mladek wrote:
> > For Linus, it was a no-go, definitely.
> …
> > I would vote for adding the WARN_*DEFERRED() into the scheduler code
> > at least until majority of console drivers are converted to nbcon API.
> 
> I see four nbcon serial console drivers (+netconsole, + drm_log). We
> have at least four times that many console drivers. What is the
> majority from your point of view? The 8250 should cover all of x86.

Good question. IMHO, there are about 100 console drivers:

$> git grep "struct console.*= {" | wc -l
107

But I guess that many of them are some old rarely used ones.

I tried to google amount of market share from various architectures
and it seems that most spread are: arm, x86_64, and risc-v.

Arm might already be mostly covered by pl011.
x86_64 will be covered by 8250.

I am not sure about risc-v. It seems that it might use 8250 as well
at least in virtual machines. Also there is drivers/tty/hvc/hvc_riscv_sbi.c.

Hmm, 8250 might the breakpoint. Maybe, we could leave the rest as a
motivation to convert the console driver instead of adding workarounds
using the printk_deferred() mechanism.

That said, AFAIK, the netconsole is often used when the device does
not have a serial console. And it is pity that it does not have
the .write_atomic callbacks implemented.

Best Regards,
Petr

  reply	other threads:[~2026-06-30  9:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-23 14:26 [PATCH 0/2] sched: Introduce and use deferred WARNs in sched Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-06-23 14:26 ` [PATCH 1/2] bug: Provide WARN_ON.*DEFERRED() macros for console deferred output Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-06-23 14:54   ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-06-24  6:26     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-06-24  9:17       ` Petr Mladek
2026-06-24 15:24         ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-06-30  9:21           ` Petr Mladek [this message]
2026-06-23 15:12   ` Andrew Morton
2026-06-23 15:49     ` Petr Mladek
2026-06-24  8:37   ` Breno Leitao
2026-06-24 11:03     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-06-24  9:31   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-06-24 10:08     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-06-23 14:26 ` [PATCH 2/2] sched: Use WARN_ON.*_DEFERRED() Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-06-24  9:33 ` [PATCH 0/2] sched: Introduce and use deferred WARNs in sched Peter Zijlstra

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