From: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
To: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
Cc: K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>,
linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
sched-ext@lists.linux.dev, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
"David S . Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Andrea Righi <arighi@nvidia.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
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Changwoo Min <changwoo@igalia.com>,
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Simon Horman <horms@kernel.org>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
Vlad Poenaru <vlad.wing@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] bug: Provide WARN_ON.*DEFERRED() macros for console deferred output
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2026 11:21:53 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <akOKsdOhfBBqVUhI@pathway.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260624152431.Ufq0jT8r@linutronix.de>
On Wed 2026-06-24 17:24:31, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
> On 2026-06-24 11:17:31 [+0200], Petr Mladek wrote:
> > For Linus, it was a no-go, definitely.
> …
> > I would vote for adding the WARN_*DEFERRED() into the scheduler code
> > at least until majority of console drivers are converted to nbcon API.
>
> I see four nbcon serial console drivers (+netconsole, + drm_log). We
> have at least four times that many console drivers. What is the
> majority from your point of view? The 8250 should cover all of x86.
Good question. IMHO, there are about 100 console drivers:
$> git grep "struct console.*= {" | wc -l
107
But I guess that many of them are some old rarely used ones.
I tried to google amount of market share from various architectures
and it seems that most spread are: arm, x86_64, and risc-v.
Arm might already be mostly covered by pl011.
x86_64 will be covered by 8250.
I am not sure about risc-v. It seems that it might use 8250 as well
at least in virtual machines. Also there is drivers/tty/hvc/hvc_riscv_sbi.c.
Hmm, 8250 might the breakpoint. Maybe, we could leave the rest as a
motivation to convert the console driver instead of adding workarounds
using the printk_deferred() mechanism.
That said, AFAIK, the netconsole is often used when the device does
not have a serial console. And it is pity that it does not have
the .write_atomic callbacks implemented.
Best Regards,
Petr
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-06-30 9:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-06-23 14:26 [PATCH 0/2] sched: Introduce and use deferred WARNs in sched Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-06-23 14:26 ` [PATCH 1/2] bug: Provide WARN_ON.*DEFERRED() macros for console deferred output Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-06-23 14:54 ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-06-24 6:26 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-06-24 9:17 ` Petr Mladek
2026-06-24 15:24 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-06-30 9:21 ` Petr Mladek [this message]
2026-06-23 15:12 ` Andrew Morton
2026-06-23 15:49 ` Petr Mladek
2026-06-24 8:37 ` Breno Leitao
2026-06-24 11:03 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-06-24 9:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-06-24 10:08 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-06-23 14:26 ` [PATCH 2/2] sched: Use WARN_ON.*_DEFERRED() Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-06-24 9:33 ` [PATCH 0/2] sched: Introduce and use deferred WARNs in sched Peter Zijlstra
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