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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
To: Johannes Berg <johannes-cdvu00un1VgdHxzADdlk8Q@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Jeff Chua
	<jeff.chua.linux-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw-KKrjLPT3xs0@public.gmane.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List
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	Adrian Bunk <bunk-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Andrew Morton
	<akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>,
	Kernel Testers List
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	Network Development
	<netdev-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	"John W. Linville"
	<linville-2XuSBdqkA4R54TAoqtyWWQ@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: 2.6.29-rc8: Reported regressions from 2.6.28
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 11:44:31 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0903151136310.3131@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1237140665.24621.2.camel-YfaajirXv2244ywRPIzf9A@public.gmane.org>



On Sun, 15 Mar 2009, Johannes Berg wrote:

> On Sun, 2009-03-15 at 11:06 +0800, Jeff Chua wrote:
> 
> > The commit below is causing problem with associating with the hidden AP as well.
> 
> > 71c11fb57b924c160297ccd9e1761db598d00ac2 is first bad commit
> > commit 71c11fb57b924c160297ccd9e1761db598d00ac2
> > Author: Johannes Berg <johannes-cdvu00un1VgdHxzADdlk8Q@public.gmane.org>
> > Date:   Tue Oct 28 18:29:48 2008 +0100
> > 
> >     b43/legacy: remove SSID code
> > 
> >     The SSID programmed into the device is used by the ucode only
> >     to reply to probe requests, a functionality we disable anyway
> >     because it doesn't fit with the mac80211/hostapd programming
> >     model. Therefore, it isn't useful to program the SSID into
> >     device.
> 
> That's not believable, sorry. I know exactly what the microcode uses the
> SSID here for, and it never uses it when we're in station mode.

Jeff - can you test the kernels before-and-after this commit (with _no_ 
other changes) and descibe the differences?

Johannes - "not believable" is simply not an argument. If Jeff can show a 
difference, then your disbelief is totally irrelevant, and clearly shows 
that you are basing your beliefs on incorrect assumptions (like some 
specific version of firmware that isn't the whole story).

		Linus

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-03-15 18:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-03-14 19:01 2.6.29-rc8: Reported regressions from 2.6.28 Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-14 19:05 ` [Bug #12805] QinQ vlan trunking regression Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-14 22:04   ` David Miller
     [not found]     ` <20090314.150420.149174658.davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-14 22:26       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-15  2:58 ` 2.6.29-rc8: Reported regressions from 2.6.28 Jeff Chua
2009-03-15  3:06   ` Jeff Chua
     [not found]     ` <b6a2187b0903142006u546fad9eme66f9ea7b464b81f-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-15 10:41       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-15 18:11       ` Johannes Berg
     [not found]         ` <1237140665.24621.2.camel-YfaajirXv2244ywRPIzf9A@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-15 18:44           ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
     [not found]             ` <alpine.LFD.2.00.0903151136310.3131-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-15 19:01               ` Johannes Berg
2009-03-15 20:26                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-16 13:24                   ` Jeff Chua
2009-03-16 19:57                     ` Linus Torvalds
     [not found]                       ` <alpine.LFD.2.00.0903161250080.3082-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-16 23:55                         ` Jeff Chua
     [not found]                           ` <b6a2187b0903161655q15437156qc926c8db37d8ba4b-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-17  7:50                             ` Johannes Berg
     [not found]                               ` <1237276212.18086.11.camel-YfaajirXv2244ywRPIzf9A@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-17 17:21                                 ` Jeff Chua
2009-03-17 14:48                             ` John W. Linville
     [not found]                               ` <20090317144802.GF3549-2XuSBdqkA4R54TAoqtyWWQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-17 15:28                                 ` John W. Linville
2009-03-17 15:39                                   ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]                                     ` <20090317153924.GA21061-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-17 16:05                                       ` John W. Linville
2009-03-17 16:24                                         ` Jeff Chua
     [not found]                                           ` <b6a2187b0903170924u72723220x4c0a717e3cfebf8d-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-17 17:10                                             ` John W. Linville
     [not found]                                               ` <20090317171047.GF6737-2XuSBdqkA4R54TAoqtyWWQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-17 17:27                                                 ` Jeff Chua
     [not found]                                                   ` <b6a2187b0903171027w328f1dfds781910c0571b2424-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-17 17:31                                                     ` Jeff Chua
2009-03-17 18:26                                                       ` Jeff Chua
2009-03-17 19:22                     ` Johannes Berg
     [not found]                       ` <1237317742.31814.28.camel-YfaajirXv2244ywRPIzf9A@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-19  2:58                         ` Jeff Chua
2009-03-19  3:25                           ` Jeff Chua
2009-03-19  4:23                             ` Jeff Chua
2009-03-19 16:59                               ` Johannes Berg
2009-03-20 17:19                                 ` Jeff Chua
     [not found]                           ` <b6a2187b0903181958ke11abe7tdcbc4efeb950954d-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-19  4:49                             ` Jeff Chua
2009-03-19  9:38                               ` Johannes Berg
2009-03-19 14:13                                 ` John W. Linville
2009-03-19 15:02                                   ` Required sequence to set wireless parameters? (was: 2.6.29-rc8: Reported regressions from 2.6.28) Frans Pop
2009-03-19 15:24                                     ` John W. Linville
2009-03-19 16:45                                       ` Jeff Chua
2009-03-19 16:53                                     ` Johannes Berg
2009-03-19 19:24                                       ` Required sequence to set wireless parameters? Frans Pop
     [not found]                                         ` <200903192024.30562.elendil-EIBgga6/0yRmR6Xm/wNWPw@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-19 19:27                                           ` Johannes Berg
     [not found]                                 ` <1237455534.5100.56.camel-YfaajirXv2244ywRPIzf9A@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-20  4:55                                   ` 2.6.29-rc8: Reported regressions from 2.6.28 Jeff Chua
2009-03-20  5:20                                     ` Jeff Chua
2009-03-20  8:32                                     ` Johannes Berg
     [not found]                                       ` <1237537967.5100.135.camel-YfaajirXv2244ywRPIzf9A@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-20 10:04                                         ` Jeff Chua
2009-03-20 10:13                                           ` Johannes Berg
2009-03-20 16:14                                             ` Jeff Chua
     [not found]                                               ` <b6a2187b0903200914r23d635c9obc55b30b7cc04382-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-21 12:09                                                 ` Johannes Berg
     [not found]                                                   ` <1237637375.5100.178.camel-YfaajirXv2244ywRPIzf9A@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-21 15:08                                                     ` Jeff Chua
     [not found]                                                       ` <b6a2187b0903210808m7586fdc2g53e72aa269d6e353-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-21 15:11                                                         ` Johannes Berg
2009-03-16  1:02 ` Zhang Rui

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