From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com, dada1@cosmosbay.com,
shemminger@vyatta.com, kaber@trash.net,
jeff.chua.linux@gmail.com, paulus@samba.org, mingo@elte.hu,
laijs@cn.fujitsu.com, jengelh@medozas.de, r000n@r000n.net,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, benh@kernel.crashing.org,
mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca
Subject: Re: [PATCH] netfilter: use per-cpu spinlock rather than RCU (v3)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 10:32:46 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0904171028070.4042@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1239988979.23397.4841.camel@laptop>
On Fri, 17 Apr 2009, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>
> Since its a full broadcast, we can do that _today_ using on_each_cpu().
> But whatever way we turn this, this will be a very expensive operation.
> Imagine doing that on your 256-way for every iptables rules change.
Well, you _could_ just have a per-CPU bit of "have I used nf rules since
the last update", and skip those CPU's. Use memory ordering to check the
bits (set the bit _before_ looking up a NF rule, and check them _after_
doing the update, and have a barrier in between if you really think it
matters).
Remember: the cost was never about a single filter rule update. The cost
of a single one is almost immaterial, as long as it's not in hundreds of
milliseconds. It's the cost of people building up things incrementally
that caused this thing.
So if you have 200 "iptables" commands in a sequence, and especially
during bootup, a trivial "has the old rule been ever even looked at on
this CPU" would already fix the issue. Because it would always be zero in
the only case where it matters.
This is, of course, what we do for the TLB flushing issue. We don't want
to send IPI's to all CPU's, and in 99.999% of all cases we don't need to,
because the other CPU's never even loaded the MM.
Linus
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[not found] <Pine.LNX.4.64.0904101656190.2093@boston.corp.fedex.com>
[not found] ` <20090410095246.4fdccb56@s6510>
2009-04-11 1:25 ` iptables very slow after commit784544739a25c30637397ace5489eeb6e15d7d49 David Miller
2009-04-11 1:39 ` iptables very slow after commit 784544739a25c30637397ace5489eeb6e15d7d49 Linus Torvalds
2009-04-11 4:15 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-04-11 5:14 ` Jan Engelhardt
2009-04-11 5:42 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-04-11 6:00 ` David Miller
2009-04-11 18:12 ` Kyle Moffett
2009-04-11 18:32 ` Arkadiusz Miskiewicz
2009-04-12 0:54 ` david
2009-04-12 5:05 ` Kyle Moffett
2009-04-12 12:30 ` Harald Welte
2009-04-12 16:38 ` Jan Engelhardt
2009-04-11 15:07 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-11 16:05 ` Jeff Chua
2009-04-11 17:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-11 7:08 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-11 15:05 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-11 17:48 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-04-12 10:54 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-12 11:34 ` Paul Mackerras
2009-04-12 17:31 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-04-13 1:13 ` David Miller
2009-04-13 4:04 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-04-13 16:53 ` [PATCH] netfilter: use per-cpu spinlock rather than RCU Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-13 17:40 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-04-13 18:11 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-13 19:06 ` Martin Josefsson
2009-04-13 19:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-13 22:24 ` Andrew Morton
2009-04-13 23:20 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-13 23:26 ` Andrew Morton
2009-04-13 23:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-13 23:52 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-14 12:27 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-04-14 14:23 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-04-14 14:45 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-14 15:49 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-04-14 16:51 ` Jeff Chua
2009-04-14 18:17 ` [PATCH] netfilter: use per-cpu spinlock rather than RCU (v2) Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-14 19:28 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-04-14 21:11 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-14 21:13 ` [PATCH] netfilter: use per-cpu spinlock rather than RCU (v3) Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-14 21:40 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-04-15 10:59 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-04-15 16:31 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-15 20:55 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-15 21:07 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-04-15 21:55 ` Jan Engelhardt
2009-04-16 12:12 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-04-16 12:24 ` Jan Engelhardt
2009-04-16 12:31 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-04-15 21:57 ` [PATCH] netfilter: use per-cpu rwlock rather than RCU (v4) Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-15 23:48 ` [PATCH] netfilter: use per-cpu spinlock rather than RCU (v3) David Miller
2009-04-16 0:01 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-16 0:05 ` David Miller
2009-04-16 12:28 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-04-16 0:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-16 0:45 ` [PATCH] netfilter: use per-cpu spinlock and RCU (v5) Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-16 5:01 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-04-16 13:53 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-04-16 14:47 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-04-16 16:10 ` [PATCH] netfilter: use per-cpu recursive spinlock (v6) Eric Dumazet
2009-04-16 16:20 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-04-16 16:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-16 16:59 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-04-16 17:58 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-04-16 18:41 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-04-16 20:49 ` [PATCH[] netfilter: use per-cpu reader-writer lock (v0.7) Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-16 21:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-16 23:04 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-17 0:13 ` [PATCH] netfilter: use per-cpu recursive spinlock (v6) Paul E. McKenney
2009-04-16 13:11 ` [PATCH] netfilter: use per-cpu spinlock rather than RCU (v3) Patrick McHardy
2009-04-16 22:33 ` David Miller
2009-04-16 23:49 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-04-16 23:52 ` [PATCH] netfilter: per-cpu spin-lock with recursion (v0.8) Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-17 0:15 ` Jeff Chua
2009-04-17 5:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-17 6:03 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-04-17 6:14 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-04-17 17:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-17 11:17 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-04-17 1:28 ` [PATCH] netfilter: use per-cpu spinlock rather than RCU (v3) Paul E. McKenney
2009-04-17 2:19 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-04-17 5:05 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-04-17 5:44 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-04-17 14:51 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-04-17 4:50 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-17 5:08 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-04-17 5:16 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-04-17 5:40 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-04-17 8:07 ` David Miller
2009-04-17 15:00 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-04-17 17:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-17 17:32 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2009-04-17 6:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-17 16:33 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-04-17 16:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-17 21:29 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-04-18 9:40 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-04-18 14:14 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-04-20 17:34 ` [PATCH] netfilter: use per-cpu recursive lock (v10) Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-20 18:21 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-04-20 18:25 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-04-20 20:32 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-20 20:42 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-20 21:05 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-04-20 21:23 ` Paul Mackerras
2009-04-20 21:58 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-04-20 22:41 ` Paul Mackerras
2009-04-20 23:01 ` [PATCH] netfilter: use per-cpu recursive lock (v11) Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-21 3:41 ` Lai Jiangshan
2009-04-21 3:56 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-04-21 4:15 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-21 5:22 ` Lai Jiangshan
2009-04-21 5:45 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-21 6:52 ` Lai Jiangshan
2009-04-21 8:16 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-04-21 8:42 ` Lai Jiangshan
2009-04-21 8:49 ` David Miller
2009-04-21 8:55 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-04-21 9:22 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-04-21 9:34 ` Lai Jiangshan
2009-04-21 5:34 ` Lai Jiangshan
2009-04-21 4:59 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-04-21 16:37 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-04-21 5:46 ` Lai Jiangshan
2009-04-21 16:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-21 16:43 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-21 16:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-21 18:02 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-21 18:15 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-21 19:10 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-21 19:46 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-04-22 7:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-22 8:53 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-04-22 10:13 ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-04-22 11:26 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-22 11:39 ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-04-22 11:18 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-22 15:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-22 16:57 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-04-22 17:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-22 20:46 ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-04-22 17:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-21 21:04 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-22 8:00 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-21 19:39 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-21 21:39 ` [PATCH] netfilter: use per-cpu recursive lock (v13) Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-22 4:17 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-04-22 14:57 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-04-22 15:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-24 4:09 ` [PATCH] netfilter: use per-CPU recursive lock {XIV} Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-24 4:58 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-04-24 15:33 ` Patrick McHardy
2009-04-24 16:18 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-24 20:43 ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-04-25 20:30 ` [PATCH] netfilter: iptables no lockdep is needed Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-26 8:18 ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-04-26 18:24 ` [PATCH] netfilter: use per-CPU recursive lock {XV} Eric Dumazet
2009-04-26 18:56 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-04-26 21:57 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-26 22:32 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-04-27 17:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-27 18:30 ` [PATCH] netfilter: use per-CPU r**ursive " Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-27 18:54 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-27 19:06 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-27 19:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-27 19:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-27 20:36 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-04-27 20:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-27 21:40 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-27 22:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-27 23:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-27 23:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-28 6:58 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-04-28 11:53 ` David Miller
2009-04-28 12:40 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-28 13:43 ` David Miller
2009-04-28 13:52 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-04-28 14:37 ` David Miller
2009-04-28 14:49 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-04-28 15:00 ` David Miller
2009-04-28 16:24 ` [PATCH] netfilter: revised locking for x_tables Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-28 16:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-28 16:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-29 5:37 ` David Miller
[not found] ` <20090428.223708.168741998.davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
2009-04-30 3:26 ` Jeff Chua
[not found] ` <b6a2187b0904292026k7d6107a7vcdc761d4149f40aa-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-04-30 3:31 ` David Miller
2009-05-01 8:38 ` [PATCH] netfilter: use likely() in xt_info_rdlock_bh() Eric Dumazet
2009-05-01 16:10 ` David Miller
2009-04-28 15:42 ` [PATCH] netfilter: use per-CPU r**ursive lock {XV} Paul E. McKenney
2009-04-28 17:35 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-04-28 15:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-27 23:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-28 7:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-28 14:22 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-04-28 7:42 ` Jan Engelhardt
2009-04-26 19:31 ` [PATCH] netfilter: use per-CPU recursive " Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-04-26 20:55 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-04-26 21:39 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-04-21 18:34 ` [PATCH] netfilter: use per-cpu recursive lock (v11) Paul E. McKenney
2009-04-21 20:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-20 23:44 ` [PATCH] netfilter: use per-cpu recursive lock (v10) Paul E. McKenney
2009-04-16 0:02 ` [PATCH] netfilter: use per-cpu spinlock rather than RCU (v3) Linus Torvalds
2009-04-16 6:26 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-04-16 14:33 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-04-15 3:23 ` David Miller
2009-04-14 17:19 ` [PATCH] netfilter: use per-cpu spinlock rather than RCU Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-11 15:50 ` iptables very slow after commit 784544739a25c30637397ace5489eeb6e15d7d49 Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-11 17:43 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-04-11 18:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-12 0:34 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-04-12 7:23 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-04-12 16:06 ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-04-12 17:30 ` Paul E. McKenney
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