From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Linus Torvalds Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] AlacrityVM guest drivers for 2.6.33 Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 09:29:05 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: References: <4B1D4F29.8020309@gmail.com> <87637zdy9g.fsf@basil.nowhere.org> <4B30E654.40702@codemonkey.ws> <200912221701.56840.bzolnier@gmail.com> <4B30F214.80206@codemonkey.ws> <20091223065129.GA19600@elte.hu> <4B3248F9.5030504@gmail.com> <20091223171052.GI20539@basil.fritz.box> <4B3250BC.50203@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: Andi Kleen , Ingo Molnar , Anthony Liguori , Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz , Avi Kivity , kvm@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Morton , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , netdev@vger.kernel.org, "alacrityvm-devel@lists.sourceforge.net" To: Gregory Haskins Return-path: In-Reply-To: <4B3250BC.50203@gmail.com> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-Id: netdev.vger.kernel.org On Wed, 23 Dec 2009, Gregory Haskins wrote: > > > > And upstream submission is not always like this! > > I would think the process would come to a grinding halt if it were ;) Well, in all honesty, if it had been non-virtualized drivers I would just have pulled. The pull request all looked sane, the diffstat looked clean and non-intrusive, and I had no problems with any of that. But the virtualization people always argue about the fifty-eleven different ways of doing things, and unlike real drivers - where the actual hardware places constraints on what the heck is going on - virtualization people seem to revel in making new interfaces weekly, and tend to be only incidentally limited by hardware (ie hardware interfaces may limit some _details_, but seldom any higher-level arguments). So when I see another virtualization interface, I want the virtualization people to just argue it out amongst themselves. Thanks to the virtue of me personally not caring one whit about virtualization, I can stand back and just watch the fireworks. Which is not to say that I enjoy it (I like the occasional flame-fest, but in order to like them I need to _care_ enough to get fired up about them!). So I just don't want the in-fighting to take place in my tree, so I'd rather see the fighting die out _before_ I actually pull. You people are all crazy. Linus