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From: "Robert P. J. Day" <rpjday@crashcourse.ca>
To: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
Cc: Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>,
	Linux kernel ntedev mailing list <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: consequences of setting net_device_ops ndo_change_carrier()?
Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2018 13:32:40 -0400 (EDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.21.1808041326550.4126@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180804102627.09259ca6@xeon-e3>

On Sat, 4 Aug 2018, Stephen Hemminger wrote:

... big snip ...

> ndo_change_carrier is not the droid your looking for.
>
> The purpose of ndo_change_carrier was for testing network devices
> (ie dummy), and also for cases like network tunnels where the
> sofrware carrier state may be controlled by a userspace daemon.
>
> Real network devices call netif_carrier_on and netif_carrier_off
> when they notice change in carrier state in hardware. Typically,
> this is when an interrupt happens.

  i had actually come to just that conclusion, as i was digging
through the code, and couldn't immediately see why setting
ndo_change_carrier() would cause a problem. in fact, to help my
admittedly painful newbie-level debugging, i started a wiki page to
track this (i document *everything* on wiki pages):

  http://crashcourse.ca/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=ndo_change_carrier

so i am reduced to concluding that the drivers in question are simply
not calling correctly the very routines you mention.

rday

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  reply	other threads:[~2018-08-04 19:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-08-04 11:06 consequences of setting net_device_ops ndo_change_carrier()? Robert P. J. Day
2018-08-04 11:47 ` Jiri Pirko
2018-08-04 11:57   ` Robert P. J. Day
2018-08-04 17:26     ` Stephen Hemminger
2018-08-04 17:32       ` Robert P. J. Day [this message]
2018-08-05  1:11 ` Andrew Lunn
2018-08-05 10:43   ` Robert P. J. Day
2018-08-05 14:58     ` Andrew Lunn

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