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From: Enrico Mioso <mrkiko.rs-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: "Bjørn Mork" <bjorn-yOkvZcmFvRU@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Midge Shaojun Tan
	<ShaojunMidge.Tan-6C2+4RG2qWF0ubjbjo6WXg@public.gmane.org>,
	Kevin Zhu <Mingying.Zhu-6C2+4RG2qWF0ubjbjo6WXg@public.gmane.org>,
	Eli Britstein
	<Eli.Britstein-6C2+4RG2qWF0ubjbjo6WXg@public.gmane.org>,
	Alex Strizhevsky
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	"linux-usb-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<linux-usb-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	"netdev-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<netdev-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: Is this 32-bit NCM?y
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2014 13:28:24 +0100 (CET)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LNX.2.03.1412041326160.9926@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877fy7myfb.fsf-lbf33ChDnrE/G1V5fR+Y7Q@public.gmane.org>

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... DHCP will work with some DHCPNACKS in the meanwhile, but ping stops working at all.
Otherwise, it works with the standard value:

--- 8.8.8.8 ping statistics ---
48 packets transmitted, 48 received, 0% packet loss, time 47004ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 362.084/392.878/523.132/33.636 ms

And I was expecting effectively to see some lost packets, but instead... no.


On Thu, 4 Dec 2014, Bjørn Mork wrote:

> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2014 12:44:56
> From: Bjørn Mork <bjorn-yOkvZcmFvRU@public.gmane.org>
> To: Midge Shaojun Tan <ShaojunMidge.Tan-6C2+4RG2qWF0ubjbjo6WXg@public.gmane.org>
> Cc: Enrico Mioso <mrkiko.rs-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
>     Kevin Zhu <Mingying.Zhu-6C2+4RG2qWF0ubjbjo6WXg@public.gmane.org>,
>     Eli Britstein <Eli.Britstein-6C2+4RG2qWF0ubjbjo6WXg@public.gmane.org>,
>     Alex Strizhevsky <alexxst-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
>     "youtux-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org" <youtux-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
>     "linux-usb-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org" <linux-usb-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
>     "netdev-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org" <netdev-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>
> Subject: Re: Is this 32-bit NCM?y
> 
> "Midge Shaojun  Tan" <ShaojunMidge.Tan-6C2+4RG2qWF0ubjbjo6WXg@public.gmane.org> writes:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I test OK with kervel 3.16.4
>> Need disable other Ethernet network, just like eth1. (Then the DNS and route is OK)
>> And also need disable arp, (ifconfig wwan0 -arp up), because China UNICOM don't respond the ARP message.
>
> The ARP functionality is independent of operator.  It is handled
> internally by the modem firmware.  There are no MAC addresses or
> ethernet headers transmitted over the radio link.  That's all faked by
> the modem.  All MAC addresses and ethernet headers are local to the
> modem<->host USB link.
>
>> With new mode switch string: /etc/usb_modeswitch.d/12d1:14fe
>> Please see the patch and check whether it is correct?
>
> I see that you have two changes there:
>
> 1) the ETH_HLEN adjustment of ctx->tx_remainder is dropped
> 2) the NDP is placed after the first frame.
>
> I haven't verified the effect of the tx_remainder change, but I assume
> it fixes an alignment problem for this device.  I'd like to look more at
> the effect of this for different values of wNdpOutPayloadRemainder and
> wNdpOutDivisor.
>
> We can choose to put the NDP at the end of the NTB if we find that this
> fixes some problem, but doing so by default for every NCM and MBIM
> device is a bit risky. If we accept that some devices are so buggy that
> the NDP cannot be placed anywhere (as required by the spec), then we
> have to assume that this goes both ways.  Which means that moving the
> NDP to the end of the NTB might break some other device.  We just don't
> know that since we haven't ever tried it.
>
> And your fix doesn't really move it to the end either.  It just places
> the NDP after the first ethernet packet.  Which happens to be the end if
> there is only one packet in the NTB. But if we aggregate more packets
> into this NTB then the result will look like this:
>
> NTH
> eth packet 1
> NDP
> eth packet 2
> ..
> eth packet N
>
> I'm not convinced this modem will handle that if it cannot handle the
> NDP being before the first packet...  This needs to be tested.  Try
> increasing /sys/class/net/wwan0/cdc_ncm/tx_timer_usecs to force the
> driver to aggregate packets and see if everything still works.
> Preferably while looking at the resulting NTB to verify that it does
> contain more than one ethernet packet.
>
> I realize I sound a bit negative now.  This is absolutely not my
> intention. This is great work, providing some real progress wrt figuring
> out what goes on here.  Thanks a lot!  I am sure we can sort out the
> remaining issues, which are really minor compared to what you have found
> so far.
>
>
>
> Bjørn
>
>

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-12-04 12:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-12-04 10:10 Is this 32-bit NCM?y Midge Shaojun  Tan
     [not found] ` <AMSPR06MB6011E001029C251790CB923EE780-MyG0ARRHH/drF+2gGhmTpL9PrO6axcR4XA4E9RH9d+qIuWR1G4zioA@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-04 10:24   ` Enrico Mioso
2014-12-04 10:33 ` Enrico Mioso
2014-12-04 11:44 ` Bjørn Mork
2014-12-04 12:17   ` Enrico Mioso
     [not found]   ` <877fy7myfb.fsf-lbf33ChDnrE/G1V5fR+Y7Q@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-04 12:28     ` Enrico Mioso [this message]
     [not found]       ` <alpine.LNX.2.03.1412041326160.9926-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-05  2:20         ` Kevin Zhu
     [not found]           ` <54811670.5030703-6C2+4RG2qWF0ubjbjo6WXg@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-05  9:42             ` Bjørn Mork
     [not found]               ` <8761dqjuuh.fsf-lbf33ChDnrE/G1V5fR+Y7Q@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-05  9:59                 ` Enrico Mioso
2014-12-28 14:53               ` refactoring cdc_ncm Enrico Mioso
2015-01-19 16:51               ` [discuss] [cdc_ncm] Refactoring cdc_ncm Enrico Mioso
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2014-11-26 21:51 Is this 32-bit NCM? Enrico Mioso
2014-11-27 18:34 ` Enrico Mioso
2014-11-28  9:29   ` Bjørn Mork
2014-12-01 21:11     ` Enrico Mioso
2014-12-01 22:02       ` Eli Britstein
2014-12-02  3:53         ` Kevin Zhu
2014-12-02  6:32           ` Enrico Mioso
2014-12-02  6:43             ` Kevin Zhu
2014-12-02  6:49               ` Enrico Mioso
2014-12-02  7:44                 ` Kevin Zhu
2014-12-02  7:45                   ` Eli Britstein
2014-12-02  8:03                     ` Kevin Zhu
2014-12-02 10:32                       ` Enrico Mioso
2014-12-02 11:21                         ` Bjørn Mork
2014-12-02 13:11                           ` Enrico Mioso
2014-12-02 13:37                             ` Bjørn Mork
2014-12-02 13:53                               ` Enrico Mioso
2014-12-02 15:04                                 ` Kevin Zhu
2014-12-02 15:28                                   ` Enrico Mioso
2014-12-03  5:38                                     ` Kevin Zhu
2014-12-03  6:00                                       ` Enrico Mioso
2014-12-03  6:05                                         ` Kevin Zhu
2014-12-04  6:31                                           ` Is this 32-bit NCM?y Enrico Mioso
2014-12-04  8:52                                             ` Kevin Zhu
2014-12-04  8:56                                               ` Enrico Mioso
     [not found]                                                 ` <alpine.LNX.2.03.1412040955140.3516-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-04  9:01                                                   ` Kevin Zhu
2014-12-04  9:19                                               ` Bjørn Mork
2014-12-04  9:26                                                 ` Kevin Zhu
     [not found]                                                   ` <548028A0.5000909-6C2+4RG2qWF0ubjbjo6WXg@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-04  9:28                                                     ` Enrico Mioso
2014-12-04  9:55                                                   ` Bjørn Mork
2014-12-04  9:53                                                 ` Enrico Mioso
2014-12-04 10:02                                                   ` Bjørn Mork

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