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From: Enrico Mioso <mrkiko.rs-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: Oliver Neukum <oneukum-IBi9RG/b67k@public.gmane.org>
Cc: youtux-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org,
	Greg KH <greg-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-usb-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	netdev-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [cdc_ncm] guidance and help refactoring cdc_ncm
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2015 14:08:26 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LNX.2.20.1506011404550.4550@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1433160022.1884.18.camel-IBi9RG/b67k@public.gmane.org>


On Mon, 1 Jun 2015, Oliver Neukum wrote:

==Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2015 14:00:22
==From: Oliver Neukum <oneukum-IBi9RG/b67k@public.gmane.org>
==To: Enrico Mioso <mrkiko.rs-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
==Cc: youtux-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org, Greg KH <greg-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>, linux-usb-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
==    netdev-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
==Subject: Re: [cdc_ncm] guidance and help refactoring cdc_ncm
==
==On Mon, 2015-06-01 at 13:41 +0200, Enrico Mioso wrote:
==> Thank you Oliver, thank you all for reading this thread and the attention.
==> For a more detailed discussion and how we got here, you might google for the 
==> thread:
==> "Is this 32-bit NCM?"
==> and
==> "Is this 32-bit NCM?y" (follow up).
==> Where the "y" letter comes from a mistake of mine.
==
==Having read them it looks like the issues of padding and
==sequence numbers are open.
==
==> The specification does only mandate the position of the NTH (header). The rest 
==> can be in any order and position in general. This will work with most devices: 
==> except, of course, those from Huawei.
==
==Indeed. And a redesign for crap devices looks like
==a bad idea.
==
==> Our aggregate looks something like this from my perspective (anyone correct me 
==> in case):
==> NTH: header
==> NDP: contains indexing informations
==> ethernet packet 1
==> ethernet packet 2
==> ...
==> ethernet packet n;
==> 
==> While it should look like:
==> NTH: header
==> ethernet packet 1
==> ethernet packet 2
==> ...
==> ethernet packet n;
==> NDP: contains indexing informations
==> 
==> but, when introducing such a change: you might break other devices now working. 
==> Infact, clearly there are multiple vendors producing NCM device, as you might 
==> also see by looking at the dirver's comments.
==> So in general, we should be able to dynamically change the way in which the 
==> driver order things in the package.
==> and that's why I initially proposed the "redesign".
==
==OK, so the NDP needs to be at the end. However in the old thread
==you state that this requires the NDP to be built between the
==final aggregate and physically transmitting. I think this is a false
==choice. You could just as well copy the NDP around provided you reserve
==enough space at the end of the skb.
Yes, probably you can do so. I am not against anything at this moment.
==
==	Regards
==		Oliver
==
==
==
==
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-06-01 12:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-31 14:37 [cdc_ncm] guidance and help refactoring cdc_ncm Enrico Mioso
     [not found] ` <alpine.LNX.2.20.1505311628420.16456-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-01  0:59   ` Greg KH
     [not found]     ` <20150601005917.GB5320-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-01  6:53       ` Enrico Mioso
     [not found]         ` <alpine.LNX.2.20.1506010818110.3158-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-01  7:48           ` Oliver Neukum
     [not found]             ` <1433144906.1557.2.camel-IBi9RG/b67k@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-01  8:24               ` Enrico Mioso
2015-06-01 10:49                 ` Oliver Neukum
     [not found]                   ` <1433155778.1884.12.camel-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-01 11:41                     ` Enrico Mioso
2015-06-01 12:00                       ` Oliver Neukum
     [not found]                         ` <1433160022.1884.18.camel-IBi9RG/b67k@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-01 12:08                           ` Enrico Mioso [this message]
2015-06-02  5:46                           ` [RFC cdc_ncm] introducing allocation mode Enrico Mioso

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