From: James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
Cc: Matthew Garrett <matthewgarrett@google.com>,
linux-security@vger.kernel.org,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>,
Matthew Garrett <mjg59@google.com>,
Network Development <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
Chun-Yi Lee <jlee@suse.com>,
Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH V33 24/30] bpf: Restrict bpf when kernel lockdown is in confidentiality mode
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2019 06:22:47 +1000 (AEST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LRH.2.21.1906270621080.28132@namei.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrVUwQP7roLnW6kFG80Cc5U6X_T6AW+BTAftLccYGp8+Ow@mail.gmail.com>
[Adding the LSM mailing list: missed this patchset initially]
On Thu, 20 Jun 2019, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> This patch exemplifies why I don't like this approach:
>
> > @@ -97,6 +97,7 @@ enum lockdown_reason {
> > LOCKDOWN_INTEGRITY_MAX,
> > LOCKDOWN_KCORE,
> > LOCKDOWN_KPROBES,
> > + LOCKDOWN_BPF,
> > LOCKDOWN_CONFIDENTIALITY_MAX,
>
> > --- a/security/lockdown/lockdown.c
> > +++ b/security/lockdown/lockdown.c
> > @@ -33,6 +33,7 @@ static char *lockdown_reasons[LOCKDOWN_CONFIDENTIALITY_MAX+1] = {
> > [LOCKDOWN_INTEGRITY_MAX] = "integrity",
> > [LOCKDOWN_KCORE] = "/proc/kcore access",
> > [LOCKDOWN_KPROBES] = "use of kprobes",
> > + [LOCKDOWN_BPF] = "use of bpf",
> > [LOCKDOWN_CONFIDENTIALITY_MAX] = "confidentiality",
>
> The text here says "use of bpf", but what this patch is *really* doing
> is locking down use of BPF to read kernel memory. If the details
> change, then every LSM needs to get updated, and we risk breaking user
> policies that are based on LSMs that offer excessively fine
> granularity.
Can you give an example of how the details might change?
> I'd be more comfortable if the LSM only got to see "confidentiality"
> or "integrity".
These are not sufficient for creating a useful policy for the SELinux
case.
--
James Morris
<jmorris@namei.org>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-06-26 20:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20190621011941.186255-1-matthewgarrett@google.com>
2019-06-21 1:19 ` [PATCH V33 24/30] bpf: Restrict bpf when kernel lockdown is in confidentiality mode Matthew Garrett
2019-06-21 5:22 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-06-21 20:05 ` Matthew Garrett
2019-06-26 20:22 ` James Morris [this message]
2019-06-27 0:57 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-06-27 14:35 ` Stephen Smalley
2019-06-27 18:06 ` James Morris
2019-06-27 20:16 ` Stephen Smalley
2019-06-27 23:16 ` Matthew Garrett
2019-06-27 23:23 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-06-27 23:27 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-06-28 18:47 ` Matthew Garrett
2019-06-29 23:47 ` Andy Lutomirski
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