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From: Alan Maguire <alan.maguire@oracle.com>
To: Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com>
Cc: Alan Maguire <alan.maguire@oracle.com>,
	Andrii Nakryiko <andriin@fb.com>, bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>,
	Networking <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@fb.com>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	Kernel Team <kernel-team@fb.com>,
	"Paul E . McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	Jonathan Lemon <jonathan.lemon@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next 1/6] bpf: implement BPF ring buffer and verifier support for it
Date: Thu, 14 May 2020 23:25:39 +0100 (BST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LRH.2.21.2005142243090.24127@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEf4BzZpa3Xjevy-tV2oD2Yoxhf=Sm1EPNZdWsv0CoUCSmuF9w@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, 13 May 2020, Andrii Nakryiko wrote:

> On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 2:59 PM Alan Maguire <alan.maguire@oracle.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > - attach a kprobe program to record the data via bpf_ringbuf_reserve(),
> >   and store the reserved pointer value in a per-task keyed hashmap.
> >   Then record the values of interest in the reserved space. This is our
> >   speculative data as we don't know whether we want to commit it yet.
> >
> > - attach a kretprobe program that picks up our reserved pointer and
> >   commit()s or discard()s the associated data based on the return value.
> >
> > - the consumer should (I think) then only read the committed data, so in
> >   this case just the data of interest associated with the failure case.
> >
> > I'm curious if that sort of ringbuf access pattern across multiple
> > programs would work? Thanks!
> 
> 
> Right now it's not allowed. Similar to spin lock and socket reference,
> verifier will enforce that reserved record is committed or discarded
> within the same BPF program invocation. Technically, nothing prevents
> us from relaxing this and allowing to store this pointer in a map, but
> that's probably way too dangerous and not necessary for most common
> cases.
> 

Understood.

> But all your troubles with this is due to using a pair of
> kprobe+kretprobe. What I think should solve your problem is a single
> fexit program. It can read input arguments *and* return value of
> traced function. So there won't be any need for additional map and
> storing speculative data (and no speculation as well, because you'll
> just know beforehand if you even need to capture data). Does this work
> for your case?
> 

That would work for that case, absolutely! Thanks!

Alan




  reply	other threads:[~2020-05-14 22:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-13 19:25 [PATCH bpf-next 0/6] BPF ring buffer Andrii Nakryiko
2020-05-13 19:25 ` [PATCH bpf-next 1/6] bpf: implement BPF ring buffer and verifier support for it Andrii Nakryiko
2020-05-13 20:57   ` kbuild test robot
2020-05-13 21:58   ` Alan Maguire
2020-05-14  5:59     ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-05-14 22:25       ` Alan Maguire [this message]
2020-05-13 22:16   ` kbuild test robot
2020-05-14 16:50   ` Jonathan Lemon
2020-05-14 20:11     ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-05-14 17:33   ` sdf
2020-05-14 20:18     ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-05-14 20:53       ` sdf
2020-05-14 21:13         ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-05-14 21:56           ` Stanislav Fomichev
2020-05-14 19:06   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2020-05-14 20:49     ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-05-14 19:18   ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-05-14 20:39     ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-14 21:30       ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-05-14 22:13         ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-05-14 22:56         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2020-05-14 23:06           ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-05-13 19:25 ` [PATCH bpf-next 2/6] tools/memory-model: add BPF ringbuf MPSC litmus tests Andrii Nakryiko
2020-05-13 19:25 ` [PATCH bpf-next 3/6] bpf: track reference type in verifier Andrii Nakryiko
2020-05-13 19:25 ` [PATCH bpf-next 4/6] libbpf: add BPF ring buffer support Andrii Nakryiko
2020-05-13 19:25 ` [PATCH bpf-next 5/6] selftests/bpf: add BPF ringbuf selftests Andrii Nakryiko
2020-05-13 19:25 ` [PATCH bpf-next 6/6] bpf: add BPF ringbuf and perf buffer benchmarks Andrii Nakryiko
2020-05-13 22:49 ` [PATCH bpf-next 0/6] BPF ring buffer Jonathan Lemon
2020-05-14  6:08   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-05-14 16:30     ` Jonathan Lemon
2020-05-14 20:06       ` Andrii Nakryiko

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