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From: Florian Westphal <fw@strlen.de>
To: Jamal Hadi Salim <jhs@mojatatu.com>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, jiri@resnulli.us, victor@mojatatu.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH net 0/4] net/sched: reset conntrack after packet munging
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2026 14:09:55 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aobuk1osK-Lq-aMk@strlen.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAM0EoMnvz6A_v65s=jcdw5nxL6N2+yd7ZBvp78mtt7edkPe-sw@mail.gmail.com>

Jamal Hadi Salim <jhs@mojatatu.com> wrote:
> Example: If the ebpf one could be reproduced with unshare -urn would
> it have been fine to make the fix sit in netfilter?

I don't know how to 'fix netfilter'.  We would have to remove skb->nfct
and re-parse at every turn.  Is that a viable option...? Don't think so.

> > And that doesn't solve BPF (can sit anywhere) or OVS (no idea here if
> > its affected or not).
> 
> OVS is very likely affected.
> I saw your other email and you are the expert, but I am itchy to try
> the nf_confirm() approach.
> At minimal it should fix the PoC imo.

As I said, I don't see any existing function that could be used
to add the required re-validation.  nf_confirm() is the last step
in the pipeline, its way too late.  nf_conntrack_in() doesn't work
either because you can install matches earlier than that, e.g. via
-t raw -m conntrack in classic iptables, or via 'hook prerouting
type filter priority -2147483647' or something like that in
nftables.

The only other option is playing whack-a-mole, accepting the original
proposed patch for nft_ct, but I can already tell this will not be
enough and revalidation will have to be added everywhere.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-08-20 12:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-19 20:42 [PATCH net 0/4] net/sched: reset conntrack after packet munging Florian Westphal
2026-08-19 20:42 ` [PATCH net 1/4] selftests/tc-testing: pass mp_pm via initialiser Florian Westphal
2026-08-19 20:42 ` [PATCH net 2/4] net/sched: act_pedit: drop conntrack on network/transport header changes Florian Westphal
2026-08-19 20:42 ` [PATCH net 3/4] selftests: tc-testing: add act_ct test for ct reset handling Florian Westphal
2026-08-19 20:42 ` [PATCH net 4/4] net/sched: act_nat: discard any conntrack entry post modification Florian Westphal
2026-08-20 11:09 ` [PATCH net 0/4] net/sched: reset conntrack after packet munging Jamal Hadi Salim
2026-08-20 11:32   ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2026-08-20 11:44     ` Florian Westphal
2026-08-20 11:42   ` Florian Westphal
2026-08-20 11:58     ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2026-08-20 12:09       ` Florian Westphal [this message]
2026-08-20 12:41         ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2026-08-20 13:10           ` Florian Westphal
2026-08-20 16:54             ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2026-08-20 17:37               ` Florian Westphal

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