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From: Stanislav Fomichev <sdf.kernel@gmail.com>
To: Mina Almasry <almasrymina@google.com>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, bpf@vger.kernel.org,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"Eric Dumazet" <edumazet@kernel.org>,
	"Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
	"Paolo Abeni" <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	"Simon Horman" <horms@kernel.org>,
	"Jonathan Corbet" <corbet@lwn.net>,
	"Shuah Khan" <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Randy Dunlap" <rdunlap@infradead.org>,
	"Jesper Dangaard Brouer" <hawk@kernel.org>,
	"Ilias Apalodimas" <ilias.apalodimas@linaro.org>,
	"Alexei Starovoitov" <ast@kernel.org>,
	"Daniel Borkmann" <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	"John Fastabend" <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
	"Stanislav Fomichev" <sdf@fomichev.me>,
	"Luigi Rizzo" <lrizzo@google.com>,
	"Björn Töpel" <bjorn@kernel.org>,
	"Pavel Begunkov" <asml.silence@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2 0/2] net: netmem: document design principles and intended direction
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2026 15:09:56 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <asgUroVsxJq7gut1@devvm7509.cco0.facebook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20261008023030.1089616-1-almasrymina@google.com>

On 10/08, Mina Almasry wrote:
> Because the networking stack and drivers are only partially converted to
> netmem_ref and current memory providers only supply unreadable net_iovs,
> automated code review and analysis tools (such as LLMs) frequently infer
> the wrong architectural invariants from existing code. Specifically,
> they often assume that page_pool's struct page APIs are primary rather
> than legacy wrappers, that memory providers always imply net_iov, that
> net_iov is inherently unreadable, or that callers should branch on or
> downcast netmem_ref directly.
> 
> Document the intended netmem, memory provider, page_pool, and skb
> fragment design principles concisely in the relevant headers, code
> comments, and netmem documentation so both developers and automated
> tools follow the intended abstractions. This series adds comments and
> documentation rather than performing a large refactor all at once, so
> that future incremental changes nudge the codebase in the intended
> direction.
> 
> This reflects my mental model of the netmem, page_pool, and memory
> provider architecture; I welcome feedback and disagreements,
> particularly from major contributors to page_pool and memory providers.
> 
> Cc: Luigi Rizzo <lrizzo@google.com>
> Cc: Björn Töpel <bjorn@kernel.org>
> Cc: Stanislav Fomichev <sdf@fomichev.me>
> Cc: Pavel Begunkov <asml.silence@gmail.com>
> ---
> v2:
> - Document both current implementation status (memory providers currently
>   supply net_iov, and net_iov is currently unreadable) and target design
>   principles, and clarify that new code should generalize existing
>   limitations as much as possible (Stanislav Fomichev).

Acked-by: Stanislav Fomichev <sdf@fomichev.me>

      parent reply	other threads:[~2026-10-08 22:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-10-08  2:30 [PATCH net-next v2 0/2] net: netmem: document design principles and intended direction Mina Almasry
2026-10-08  2:30 ` [PATCH net-next v2 1/2] net: netmem: document netmem and memory provider design in comments Mina Almasry
2026-10-08 11:29   ` Björn Töpel
2026-10-08  2:30 ` [PATCH net-next v2 2/2] docs: netmem: document netmem and memory provider design principles Mina Almasry
2026-10-08 11:33   ` Björn Töpel
2026-10-08 22:09 ` Stanislav Fomichev [this message]

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