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From: Nogah Frankel <nogah.frankel@gmail.com>
To: Jakub Kicinski <jakub.kicinski@netronome.com>
Cc: davem@davemloft.net, jiri@resnulli.us, xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com,
	john.fastabend@gmail.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	oss-drivers@netronome.com, alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com,
	nogahf@mellanox.com, yuvalm@mellanox.com, gerlitz.or@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 05/14] nfp: abm: add simple RED offload
Date: Tue, 29 May 2018 10:53:02 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b5162e74-ef6c-a97c-453b-b825026a3152@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180528160507.4a2ff81a@cakuba>

On 29-May-18 2:05 AM, Jakub Kicinski wrote:

Hi Jakub,

> Hi Nogah!
> 
> On Mon, 28 May 2018 18:49:51 +0300, Nogah Frankel wrote:
>>> +static int
>>> +nfp_abm_red_replace(struct net_device *netdev, struct nfp_abm_link *alink,
>>> +		    struct tc_red_qopt_offload *opt)
>>> +{
>>> +	struct nfp_port *port = nfp_port_from_netdev(netdev);
>>> +	int err;
>>> +
>>> +	if (opt->set.min != opt->set.max || !opt->set.is_ecn) {
>>
>> I am a bit worried about the min == max.
>> sch_red doesn't really support it. It will calculate incorrect delta
>> value. (And that only if tc_red_eval_P in iproute2 won't reject it).
>> You might maybe use max = min+1,  because in real life it will probably
>> act the same but without this problem.
> 
> I remember having a long think about this when I wrote the code.
> My conclusion was that the two would operate almost the same, and
> setting min == max may be most obvious to the user.

I agree.

> 
> If min + 1 == max sch_red would act probabilistically for qavg == min,
> which is not what the card would do.
> 
> Userspace now does this:
> 
> tc_red_eval_P() {
> 	int i = qmax - qmin;
>   
> 	if (!i)
> 		return 0;
> 	if (i < 0)
> 		return -1;
> 	...
> }
> 
> And you've fixed delta to be treated as 1 to avoid division by 0 in
> commit 5c472203421a ("net_sched: red: Avoid devision by zero"):
> 
> red_set_parms() {
> 	int delta = qth_max - qth_min;
> 	u32 max_p_delta;
> 
> 	p->qth_min	= qth_min << Wlog;
> 	p->qth_max	= qth_max << Wlog;
> 	p->Wlog		= Wlog;
> 	p->Plog		= Plog;
> 	if (delta <= 0)
> 		delta = 1;
> 	p->qth_delta	= delta;
> 	...
> }

I changes it to avoid division by 0, but I wasn't sure that the delta 
value of 1 will be good, just that it is better then 0.

> 
> So we should be safe.  Targets will match.  Probability adjustment for
> adaptive should work correctly.  Which doesn't matter anyway, since we
> will never use the probabilistic action...

That makes sense, and it is a better way to set this setup (DCTCP, I 
guess?) than before.

Thanks

Nogah


> 
>> Nogah Frankel
>> (from a new mail address)
> 
> Noted :)
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2018-05-29  7:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-05-26  4:53 [PATCH net-next 00/14] nfp: abm: RED/MQ qdisc offload Jakub Kicinski
2018-05-26  4:53 ` [PATCH net-next 01/14] nfp: return -EOPNOTSUPP from .ndo_get_phys_port_name for VFs Jakub Kicinski
2018-05-26  4:53 ` [PATCH net-next 02/14] nfp: prefix vNIC phys_port_name with 'n' Jakub Kicinski
2018-05-26  4:53 ` [PATCH net-next 03/14] nfp: abm: enable advanced queuing on demand Jakub Kicinski
2018-05-26  4:53 ` [PATCH net-next 04/14] nfp: abm: add helpers for configuring queue marking levels Jakub Kicinski
2018-05-26  4:53 ` [PATCH net-next 05/14] nfp: abm: add simple RED offload Jakub Kicinski
2018-05-28 15:49   ` Nogah Frankel
2018-05-28 23:05     ` Jakub Kicinski
2018-05-29  7:53       ` Nogah Frankel [this message]
2018-05-26  4:53 ` [PATCH net-next 06/14] net: sched: add qstats.qlen to qlen Jakub Kicinski
2018-05-26  4:53 ` [PATCH net-next 07/14] nfp: abm: report statistics from RED offload Jakub Kicinski
2018-05-26  4:53 ` [PATCH net-next 08/14] nfp: allow apps to add extra stats to ports Jakub Kicinski
2018-05-26  4:53 ` [PATCH net-next 09/14] nfp: abm: expose the internal stats in ethtool Jakub Kicinski
2018-05-26  4:53 ` [PATCH net-next 10/14] nfp: abm: expose all PF queues Jakub Kicinski
2018-05-26  4:53 ` [PATCH net-next 11/14] net: sched: mq: add simple offload notification Jakub Kicinski
2018-05-26  4:53 ` [PATCH net-next 12/14] nfp: abm: multi-queue RED offload Jakub Kicinski
2018-05-26  4:53 ` [PATCH net-next 13/14] net: sched: mq: request stats from offloads Jakub Kicinski
2018-05-26  4:53 ` [PATCH net-next 14/14] nfp: abm: report correct MQ stats Jakub Kicinski
2018-05-29 13:51 ` [PATCH net-next 00/14] nfp: abm: RED/MQ qdisc offload David Miller

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