From: Jacob Keller <jacob.e.keller@intel.com>
To: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>
Cc: William Tu <witu@nvidia.com>, <bodong@nvidia.com>,
<jiri@nvidia.com>, <netdev@vger.kernel.org>, <saeedm@nvidia.com>,
"aleksander.lobakin@intel.com" <aleksander.lobakin@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v3 net-next] Documentation: devlink: Add devlink-sd
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2024 13:42:32 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <bae83d3a-662b-4bfc-ae64-1913d677bbdd@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240215180729.07314879@kernel.org>
On 2/15/2024 6:07 PM, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 09:41:31 -0800 Jacob Keller wrote:
>> I don't know offhand if we have a device which can share pools
>> specifically, but we do have multi-PF devices which have a lot of shared
>> resources. However, due to the multi-PF PCIe design. I looked into ways
>> to get a single devlink across the devices.. but ultimately got stymied
>> and gave up.
>>
>> This left us with accepting the limitation that each PF gets its own
>> devlink and can't really communicate with other PFs.
>>
>> The existing solution has just been to partition the shared resources
>> evenly across PFs, typically via firmware. No flexibility.
>>
>> I do think the best solution here would be to figure out a generic way
>> to tie multiple functions into a single devlink representing the device.
>> Then each function gets the set of devlink_port objects associated to
>> it. I'm not entirely sure how that would work. We could hack something
>> together with auxbus.. but thats pretty ugly. Some sort of orchestration
>> in the PCI layer that could identify when a device wants to have some
>> sort of "parent" driver which loads once and has ties to each of the
>> function drivers would be ideal.
>>
>> Then this parent driver could register devlink, and each function driver
>> could connect to it and allocate ports and function-specific resources.
>>
>> Alternatively a design which loads a single driver that maintains
>> references to each function could work but that requires a significant
>> change to the entire driver design and is unlikely to be done for
>> existing drivers...
>
> I think the complexity mostly stems from having to answer what the
> "right behavior" is. At least that's what I concluded when thinking
> about it back at Netronome :) If you do a strict hierarchy where
> one PF is preassigned the role of the leader, and just fail if anything
> unexpected happens - it should be doable. We already kinda have the
> model where devlink is the "first layer of probing" and "reload_up()"
> is the second.
Well, a lot comes from the choices made at hardware design to have a
multi-function device but then still have pieces shared across PFs, with
no clear plan for how to actually orchestrate that sharing...
>
> Have you had a chance to take a closer look at mlx5 "socket direct"
> (rename pending) implementation?
>
Hm. No I hadn't seen that yet.
> BTW Jiri, weren't you expecting that to use component drivers or some
> such?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-02-16 21:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-01-25 4:56 [RFC PATCH v2 net-next] Documentation: devlink: Add devlink-sd William Tu
2024-01-25 21:12 ` [RFC PATCH v3 " William Tu
2024-01-25 22:36 ` William Tu
2024-01-29 10:56 ` Simon Horman
2024-01-29 22:23 ` William Tu
2024-01-31 1:07 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-01-31 18:47 ` William Tu
2024-01-31 19:06 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-01-31 19:16 ` William Tu
2024-01-31 20:45 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-01-31 21:37 ` William Tu
2024-01-31 21:41 ` Jacob Keller
2024-01-31 22:30 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-01-31 23:02 ` William Tu
2024-01-31 23:17 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-02-01 2:23 ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2024-02-01 14:00 ` William Tu
2024-02-02 8:48 ` Michal Swiatkowski
2024-02-02 15:27 ` William Tu
2024-02-01 10:13 ` Jiri Pirko
2024-02-02 4:00 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-02-02 7:46 ` Jiri Pirko
2024-02-09 1:26 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-02-15 13:19 ` Jiri Pirko
2024-02-15 17:41 ` Jacob Keller
2024-02-16 2:07 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-02-16 8:15 ` Jiri Pirko
2024-02-16 21:42 ` Jacob Keller [this message]
2024-02-16 21:47 ` Jacob Keller
2024-02-19 8:59 ` Jiri Pirko
2024-02-16 8:10 ` Jiri Pirko
2024-02-16 21:44 ` Jacob Keller
2024-02-16 1:58 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-02-16 8:06 ` Jiri Pirko
2024-02-17 2:43 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-02-19 9:06 ` Jiri Pirko
2024-02-20 22:17 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-02-01 19:16 ` William Tu
2024-02-02 3:30 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-02-02 4:26 ` William Tu
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=bae83d3a-662b-4bfc-ae64-1913d677bbdd@intel.com \
--to=jacob.e.keller@intel.com \
--cc=aleksander.lobakin@intel.com \
--cc=bodong@nvidia.com \
--cc=jiri@nvidia.com \
--cc=jiri@resnulli.us \
--cc=kuba@kernel.org \
--cc=netdev@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=saeedm@nvidia.com \
--cc=witu@nvidia.com \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).