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From: Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>
To: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Sagi Grimberg <sagi@grimberg.me>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Keith Busch <kbusch@kernel.org>,
	linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, Boris Pismenny <boris.pismenny@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] net/tls: implement ->read_sock()
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2023 08:44:56 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <bae9a22a-246f-525e-d9a9-72a074d457c5@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230620100843.19569d60@kernel.org>

On 6/20/23 19:08, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 16:21:22 +0300 Sagi Grimberg wrote:
>>> +	err = tls_rx_reader_lock(sk, ctx, true);
>>> +	if (err < 0)
>>> +		return err;
>>
>> Unlike recvmsg or splice_read, the caller of read_sock is assumed to
>> have the socket locked, and tls_rx_reader_lock also calls lock_sock,
>> how is this not a deadlock?
> 
> Yeah :|
> 
>> I'm not exactly clear why the lock is needed here or what is the subtle
>> distinction between tls_rx_reader_lock and what lock_sock provides.
> 
> It's a bit of a workaround for the consistency of the data stream.
> There's bunch of state in the TLS ULP and waiting for mem or data
> releases and re-takes the socket lock. So to stop the flow annoying
> corner case races I slapped a lock around all of the reader.
> 
> IMHO depending on the socket lock for anything non-trivial and outside
> of the socket itself is a bad idea in general.
> 
> The immediate need at the time was that if you did a read() and someone
> else did a peek() at the same time from a stream of A B C D you may read
> A D B C.

Leaving me ever so confused.

read_sock() is a generic interface; we cannot require a protocol 
specific lock before calling it.

What to do now?
Drop the tls_rx_read_lock from read_sock() again?

Cheers,

Hannes
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  reply	other threads:[~2023-06-21  6:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-20 10:28 [PATCHv5 0/4] net/tls: fixes for NVMe-over-TLS Hannes Reinecke
2023-06-20 10:28 ` [PATCH 1/4] net/tls: handle MSG_EOR for tls_sw TX flow Hannes Reinecke
2023-06-20 10:28 ` [PATCH 2/4] net/tls: handle MSG_EOR for tls_device " Hannes Reinecke
2023-06-20 17:12   ` Sabrina Dubroca
2023-06-21  6:09     ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-06-20 10:28 ` [PATCH 3/4] selftests/net/tls: add test for MSG_EOR Hannes Reinecke
2023-06-20 10:28 ` [PATCH 4/4] net/tls: implement ->read_sock() Hannes Reinecke
2023-06-20 13:21   ` Sagi Grimberg
2023-06-20 17:08     ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-06-21  6:44       ` Hannes Reinecke [this message]
2023-06-21  8:39         ` Sagi Grimberg
2023-06-21  9:08           ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-06-21  9:49             ` Sagi Grimberg
2023-06-21 19:31               ` Jakub Kicinski
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2023-06-14  6:22 [PATCHv4 0/4] net/tls: fixes for NVMe-over-TLS Hannes Reinecke
2023-06-14  6:22 ` [PATCH 4/4] net/tls: implement ->read_sock() Hannes Reinecke
2023-06-17  6:28   ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-06-17 14:08   ` Simon Horman
2023-06-19  8:16     ` Dan Carpenter

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