From: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
To: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>
Cc: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
Si-Wei Liu <si-wei.liu@oracle.com>,
elic@nvidia.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: Re: [virtio-dev] Re: [PATCH] vdpa/mlx5: set_features should allow reset to zero
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2021 18:31:07 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <bbb0a09e-17e1-a397-1b64-6ce9afe18e44@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210223110430.2f098bc0.cohuck@redhat.com>
On 2021/2/23 6:04 下午, Cornelia Huck wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Feb 2021 17:46:20 +0800
> Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2021/2/23 下午5:25, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>>> On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 09:09:28AM -0800, Si-Wei Liu wrote:
>>>> On 2/21/2021 8:14 PM, Jason Wang wrote:
>>>>> On 2021/2/19 7:54 下午, Si-Wei Liu wrote:
>>>>>> Commit 452639a64ad8 ("vdpa: make sure set_features is invoked
>>>>>> for legacy") made an exception for legacy guests to reset
>>>>>> features to 0, when config space is accessed before features
>>>>>> are set. We should relieve the verify_min_features() check
>>>>>> and allow features reset to 0 for this case.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's worth noting that not just legacy guests could access
>>>>>> config space before features are set. For instance, when
>>>>>> feature VIRTIO_NET_F_MTU is advertised some modern driver
>>>>>> will try to access and validate the MTU present in the config
>>>>>> space before virtio features are set.
>>>>> This looks like a spec violation:
>>>>>
>>>>> "
>>>>>
>>>>> The following driver-read-only field, mtu only exists if
>>>>> VIRTIO_NET_F_MTU is set. This field specifies the maximum MTU for the
>>>>> driver to use.
>>>>> "
>>>>>
>>>>> Do we really want to workaround this?
>>>> Isn't the commit 452639a64ad8 itself is a workaround for legacy guest?
>>>>
>>>> I think the point is, since there's legacy guest we'd have to support, this
>>>> host side workaround is unavoidable. Although I agree the violating driver
>>>> should be fixed (yes, it's in today's upstream kernel which exists for a
>>>> while now).
>>> Oh you are right:
>>>
>>>
>>> static int virtnet_validate(struct virtio_device *vdev)
>>> {
>>> if (!vdev->config->get) {
>>> dev_err(&vdev->dev, "%s failure: config access disabled\n",
>>> __func__);
>>> return -EINVAL;
>>> }
>>>
>>> if (!virtnet_validate_features(vdev))
>>> return -EINVAL;
>>>
>>> if (virtio_has_feature(vdev, VIRTIO_NET_F_MTU)) {
>>> int mtu = virtio_cread16(vdev,
>>> offsetof(struct virtio_net_config,
>>> mtu));
>>> if (mtu < MIN_MTU)
>>> __virtio_clear_bit(vdev, VIRTIO_NET_F_MTU);
>>
>> I wonder why not simply fail here?
> I think both failing or not accepting the feature can be argued to make
> sense: "the device presented us with a mtu size that does not make
> sense" would point to failing, "we cannot work with the mtu size that
> the device presented us" would point to not negotiating the feature.
>
>>
>>> }
>>>
>>> return 0;
>>> }
>>>
>>> And the spec says:
>>>
>>>
>>> The driver MUST follow this sequence to initialize a device:
>>> 1. Reset the device.
>>> 2. Set the ACKNOWLEDGE status bit: the guest OS has noticed the device.
>>> 3. Set the DRIVER status bit: the guest OS knows how to drive the device.
>>> 4. Read device feature bits, and write the subset of feature bits understood by the OS and driver to the
>>> device. During this step the driver MAY read (but MUST NOT write) the device-specific configuration
>>> fields to check that it can support the device before accepting it.
>>> 5. Set the FEATURES_OK status bit. The driver MUST NOT accept new feature bits after this step.
>>> 6. Re-read device status to ensure the FEATURES_OK bit is still set: otherwise, the device does not
>>> support our subset of features and the device is unusable.
>>> 7. Perform device-specific setup, including discovery of virtqueues for the device, optional per-bus setup,
>>> reading and possibly writing the device’s virtio configuration space, and population of virtqueues.
>>> 8. Set the DRIVER_OK status bit. At this point the device is “live”.
>>>
>>>
>>> Item 4 on the list explicitly allows reading config space before
>>> FEATURES_OK.
>>>
>>> I conclude that VIRTIO_NET_F_MTU is set means "set in device features".
>>
>> So this probably need some clarification. "is set" is used many times in
>> the spec that has different implications.
> Before FEATURES_OK is set by the driver, I guess it means "the device
> has offered the feature";
For me this part is ok since it clarify that it's the driver that set
the bit.
> during normal usage, it means "the feature
> has been negotiated".
/?
It looks to me the feature negotiation is done only after device set
FEATURES_OK, or FEATURES_OK could be read from device status?
> (This is a bit fuzzy for legacy mode.)
The problem is the MTU description for example:
"The following driver-read-only field, mtu only exists if
VIRTIO_NET_F_MTU is set."
It looks to me need to use "if VIRTIO_NET_F_MTU is set by device".
Otherwise readers (at least for me), may think the MTU is only valid if
driver set the bit.
>
> Should we add a wording clarification to the spec?
I think so.
Thanks
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-02-23 10:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-02-19 11:54 [PATCH] vdpa/mlx5: set_features should allow reset to zero Si-Wei Liu
2021-02-21 14:44 ` Eli Cohen
2021-02-21 21:52 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-02-22 6:05 ` Eli Cohen
2021-02-23 9:26 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-02-23 9:48 ` Jason Wang
2021-02-23 9:55 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-02-22 4:14 ` Jason Wang
2021-02-22 7:34 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-02-23 1:12 ` Si-Wei Liu
2021-02-23 2:03 ` Jason Wang
2021-02-23 13:26 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-02-23 19:35 ` Si-Wei Liu
2021-02-24 3:20 ` Jason Wang
2021-02-24 5:17 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-02-24 6:02 ` Jason Wang
2021-02-24 6:45 ` Eli Cohen
2021-02-24 6:47 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-02-24 6:55 ` Jason Wang
2021-02-24 7:12 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-02-24 12:40 ` Eli Cohen
2021-02-24 7:17 ` Eli Cohen
2021-02-24 5:04 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-02-24 6:04 ` Jason Wang
2021-02-24 6:46 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-02-24 6:53 ` Jason Wang
2021-02-24 7:17 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
[not found] ` <babc654d-8dcd-d8a2-c3b6-d20cc4fc554c@redhat.com>
2021-02-24 8:43 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-02-24 9:30 ` Jason Wang
2021-02-28 21:30 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-03-01 3:53 ` Jason Wang
2021-02-24 18:24 ` Si-Wei Liu
2021-02-26 0:56 ` Si-Wei Liu
2021-02-28 21:27 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-03-01 18:08 ` Si-Wei Liu
2021-02-28 21:28 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-02-28 21:34 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-03-01 3:56 ` Jason Wang
2021-03-02 9:47 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-03-02 10:53 ` Jason Wang
2021-12-11 1:44 ` vdpa legacy guest support (was Re: [PATCH] vdpa/mlx5: set_features should allow reset to zero) Si-Wei Liu
2021-12-12 9:26 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-12-13 3:02 ` Jason Wang
2021-12-13 8:06 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-12-13 8:57 ` Jason Wang
2021-12-13 10:42 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-12-14 1:13 ` Si-Wei Liu
2021-12-14 1:59 ` Si-Wei Liu
2021-12-14 3:01 ` Jason Wang
2021-12-14 5:06 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-12-15 1:05 ` Si-Wei Liu
2021-12-15 2:06 ` Jason Wang
2021-12-15 20:52 ` Si-Wei Liu
2021-12-15 21:33 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-12-16 2:01 ` Si-Wei Liu
2021-12-16 2:53 ` Jason Wang
2021-12-16 22:32 ` Si-Wei Liu
2021-12-17 1:57 ` Jason Wang
2021-12-17 2:00 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-12-17 2:15 ` Jason Wang
2021-12-16 6:35 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-12-16 3:43 ` Jason Wang
2021-12-17 1:08 ` Si-Wei Liu
2021-12-17 2:01 ` Jason Wang
2021-02-22 17:09 ` [PATCH] vdpa/mlx5: set_features should allow reset to zero Si-Wei Liu
2021-02-23 2:03 ` Jason Wang
2021-02-23 9:25 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-02-23 9:46 ` Jason Wang
2021-02-23 10:01 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-02-23 10:17 ` Jason Wang
2021-02-24 9:40 ` Jason Wang
2021-02-23 10:04 ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck
2021-02-23 10:31 ` Jason Wang [this message]
2021-02-23 10:58 ` Cornelia Huck
2021-02-24 9:29 ` Jason Wang
2021-02-24 11:12 ` Cornelia Huck
2021-02-25 4:36 ` Jason Wang
2021-02-25 13:26 ` Cornelia Huck
2021-02-25 18:53 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-02-26 8:19 ` Jason Wang
2021-02-28 21:25 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-03-01 3:51 ` Jason Wang
2021-03-02 12:08 ` Cornelia Huck
[not found] ` <5f6972fe-7246-b622-958d-9cab8dd98e21@redhat.com>
2021-03-03 8:29 ` Cornelia Huck
2021-03-04 8:24 ` Jason Wang
2021-03-04 13:50 ` Cornelia Huck
2021-03-05 3:01 ` Jason Wang
2021-02-23 12:26 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
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