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From: Dmitry Eremin-Solenikov <dbaryshkov-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: Marcel Holtmann <marcel-kz+m5ild9QBg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
Cc: "Holger Schurig"
	<hs4233-x6+DxXLjN1AJvtFkdXX2Hg4jNU5vUVPG@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-wireless-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	"Gábor Stefanik"
	<netrolller.3d-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	netdev-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	slapin-9cOl001CZnBAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org,
	maxim.osipov-kv7WeFo6aLtBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org,
	dmitry.baryshkov-kv7WeFo6aLtBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org,
	oliver.fendt-kv7WeFo6aLtBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org
Subject: Ответ: [PATCH 10/10] ieee802154: add at86rf230/rf231 spi driver
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 12:29:55 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <bc64b4640906020129x4fe15e5en9d8e2cad1d86b236@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1243930893.3192.62.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>

2009/6/2, Marcel Holtmann <marcel-kz+m5ild9QBg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>:
> Hi Holger,
>
>> > I thought about drivers/net as about ip (well, more or less)
>> > network drivers. We have drivers/atm or drivers/bluetooth (and
>> > bluetooth is 802.15.1...).
>>
>> I actually like that this is drivers/bluetooth and not
>> drivers/ieee802151. Would you consider drivers/zigbee instead of
>> drivers/ieee802154 ???
>
> I fully agree here.
>
> Please use "zigbee" instead of "ieee*" names since that can become messy
> and confusing. I know that in theory the IEEE part of ZigBee is more
> low-level radio and could be used by non-ZigBee devices, but that is not
> gonna happen anyway. Especially with Bluetooth Low Energy pushing into
> the turf of ZigBee. So please use proper names and not confuse people
> with IEEE numbers ;)

This gonna happen, as we are most probably going to implement 6lowpan
on top of our stack. 6lowpan is a way to encapsulate IPv6 frames into
IEEE 802.15.4 and has nothing in common with ZigBee. Moreover
ZigBee is a trademark with strict rules upon it's usage. Our lawyers are
currently investigating if it's possible to use this name in projects like
Linux kernel which are open-source, non-related to any project but
OTOH can be encapsulated in any commercial project.

IEEE 802.15.4 is a term like IEEE 802.11. We do have mac80211,
we have had (until recently) ieee80211 dir, so why bother?

For Bluetooth naming directories 'bluetooth' is logical, as 802.15.1
standard is a less known name, doesn't incorporate latest changes
from Bluetooth, etc.

-- 
With best wishes
Dmitry
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-06-02  8:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-06-01 14:54 [RFC][WIP] IEEE 802.15.4 implementation for Linux v1 Dmitry Eremin-Solenikov
2009-06-01 14:54 ` [PATCH 01/10] crc-itu-t: add bit-reversed calculation Dmitry Eremin-Solenikov
2009-06-01 14:54   ` [PATCH 02/10] Add constants for the ieee 802.15.4/ZigBee stack Dmitry Eremin-Solenikov
2009-06-01 14:54     ` [PATCH 03/10] net: add IEEE 802.15.4 socket family implementation Dmitry Eremin-Solenikov
     [not found]       ` <1243868091-5315-4-git-send-email-dbaryshkov-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-01 14:54         ` [PATCH 04/10] net: add NL802154 interface for configuration of 802.15.4 devices Dmitry Eremin-Solenikov
2009-06-01 14:54           ` [PATCH 05/10] ieee802154: add simple HardMAC driver sample Dmitry Eremin-Solenikov
2009-06-01 14:54             ` [PATCH 06/10] mac802154: add a software MAC 802.15.4 implementation Dmitry Eremin-Solenikov
     [not found]               ` <1243868091-5315-7-git-send-email-dbaryshkov-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-01 14:54                 ` [PATCH 07/10] ieee802154: add virtual loopback driver Dmitry Eremin-Solenikov
     [not found]                   ` <1243868091-5315-8-git-send-email-dbaryshkov-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-01 14:54                     ` [PATCH 08/10] tty_io: export tty_class Dmitry Eremin-Solenikov
     [not found]                       ` <1243868091-5315-9-git-send-email-dbaryshkov-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-01 14:54                         ` [PATCH 09/10] ieee802154: add serial dongle driver Dmitry Eremin-Solenikov
     [not found]                           ` <1243868091-5315-10-git-send-email-dbaryshkov-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-01 14:54                             ` [PATCH 10/10] ieee802154: add at86rf230/rf231 spi driver Dmitry Eremin-Solenikov
     [not found]                               ` <1243868091-5315-11-git-send-email-dbaryshkov-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-01 16:21                                 ` Gábor Stefanik
     [not found]                                   ` <69e28c910906010921r56cf7017gc858cb7ba819c385-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-01 20:33                                     ` Dmitry Eremin-Solenikov
     [not found]                                       ` <20090601203348.GC7143-nIupHZaCssqR2kOLt6zJ8ErlnG4Plg33XqFh9Ls21Oc@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-02  8:10                                         ` Holger Schurig
     [not found]                                           ` <200906021010.49613.hs4233-x6+DxXLjN1AJvtFkdXX2Hg4jNU5vUVPG@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-02  8:21                                             ` Marcel Holtmann
     [not found]                                               ` <1243930893.3192.62.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-02  8:29                                                 ` Dmitry Eremin-Solenikov [this message]
2009-06-02  8:36                                                   ` Ответ: " Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-02  8:46                                                     ` Florian Fainelli
2009-06-02  8:49                                                     ` Maxim Osipov
     [not found]                                                       ` <6097c490906020149j5d614064ied2a4bfebd13ddb0-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-02  9:15                                                         ` Holger Schurig
2009-06-02  9:29                                                       ` ?????: " Jonathan Cameron
     [not found]                                                         ` <4A24F106.5040704-KWPb1pKIrIJaa/9Udqfwiw@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-02 11:42                                                           ` Dmitry Eremin-Solenikov
     [not found]                                                     ` <1243931809.3192.68.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-02  8:52                                                       ` Ответ: " Sergey Lapin
2009-06-01 15:27                             ` [PATCH 09/10] ieee802154: add serial dongle driver Alan Cox
2009-06-01 20:29                               ` Dmitry Eremin-Solenikov
     [not found]                                 ` <20090601202946.GB7143-nIupHZaCssqR2kOLt6zJ8ErlnG4Plg33XqFh9Ls21Oc@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-01 21:52                                   ` Alan Cox
     [not found]                                     ` <20090601225205.1e7e8944-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-02 14:43                                       ` Sergey Lapin
2009-06-01 15:07                         ` [PATCH 08/10] tty_io: export tty_class Alan Cox
2009-06-01 15:10                           ` Dmitry Eremin-Solenikov
2009-06-01 15:34                             ` Alan Cox
     [not found]                               ` <20090601163418.465be751-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-02 14:22                                 ` Dmitry Eremin-Solenikov
2009-06-02 14:35                                   ` Alan Cox
2009-06-05 12:24                 ` [PATCH 06/10] mac802154: add a software MAC 802.15.4 implementation Pavel Machek
2009-06-04  0:32         ` [PATCH 03/10] net: add IEEE 802.15.4 socket family implementation Andrew Morton
     [not found]           ` <20090603173214.6d3997f7.akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-04 11:16             ` Dmitry Eremin-Solenikov
     [not found]               ` <20090604111634.GA28064-nIupHZaCssqR2kOLt6zJ8ErlnG4Plg33XqFh9Ls21Oc@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-04 13:46                 ` John W. Linville
     [not found]                   ` <20090604134455.GB2839-2XuSBdqkA4R54TAoqtyWWQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-04 14:10                     ` Dmitry Eremin-Solenikov
     [not found]                       ` <bc64b4640906040710p5c7c941fi3341599bc3157b79-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-04 14:15                         ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-04  0:05   ` [PATCH 01/10] crc-itu-t: add bit-reversed calculation Andrew Morton
2009-06-05  4:03 ` [RFC][WIP] IEEE 802.15.4 implementation for Linux v1 Jon Smirl
     [not found]   ` <9e4733910906042103q6c21886cia02d33cb278cef1e-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-05  4:49     ` Dmitry Eremin-Solenikov
     [not found]       ` <bc64b4640906042149pb83911bk4e0397da11f9fde6-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-05 12:58         ` Jon Smirl
2009-06-13  3:21 ` Jon Smirl
     [not found]   ` <9e4733910906122021k4568df6rd80fb915b64ac12-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-13  5:37     ` Maxim Osipov
2009-06-13 12:39       ` Jon Smirl
2009-06-21  6:40     ` Pavel Machek

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