netdev.vger.kernel.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: David Ahern <dsahern@kernel.org>
To: Jamal Hadi Salim <jhs@mojatatu.com>, Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, deb.chatterjee@intel.com,
	anjali.singhai@intel.com, namrata.limaye@intel.com,
	tom@sipanda.io, mleitner@redhat.com, Mahesh.Shirshyad@amd.com,
	tomasz.osinski@intel.com, xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com,
	davem@davemloft.net, edumazet@google.com, kuba@kernel.org,
	pabeni@redhat.com, vladbu@nvidia.com, horms@kernel.org,
	daniel@iogearbox.net, bpf@vger.kernel.org, khalidm@nvidia.com,
	toke@redhat.com, mattyk@nvidia.com,
	David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com>,
	Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v8 09/15] p4tc: add template pipeline create, get, update, delete
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2023 10:20:46 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <bdbaa38c-5dd1-4060-b787-014daa2a0abe@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAM0EoMkdOnvzK3J1caSeKzVj+h-XrkLPfsfwRCS_udHem-C29g@mail.gmail.com>

On 11/17/23 4:09 AM, Jamal Hadi Salim wrote:
>>> diff --git a/include/uapi/linux/p4tc.h b/include/uapi/linux/p4tc.h
>>> index ba32dba66..4d33f44c1 100644
>>> --- a/include/uapi/linux/p4tc.h
>>> +++ b/include/uapi/linux/p4tc.h
>>> @@ -2,8 +2,71 @@
>>> #ifndef __LINUX_P4TC_H
>>> #define __LINUX_P4TC_H
>>>
>>> +#include <linux/types.h>
>>> +#include <linux/pkt_sched.h>
>>> +
>>> +/* pipeline header */
>>> +struct p4tcmsg {
>>> +      __u32 pipeid;
>>> +      __u32 obj;
>>> +};
>>
>> I don't follow. Is there any sane reason to use header instead of normal
>> netlink attribute? Moveover, you extend the existing RT netlink with
>> a huge amout of p4 things. Isn't this the good time to finally introduce
>> generic netlink TC family with proper yaml spec with all the benefits it
>> brings and implement p4 tc uapi there? Please?
>>

There is precedence (new netdev APIs) to move new infra to genl, but it
is not clear to me if extending existing functionality should fall into
that required conversion.

> 
> Several reasons:
> a) We are similar to current tc messaging with the subheader being
> there for multiplexing.
> b) Where does this leave iproute2? +Cc David and Stephen. Do other
> generic netlink conversions get contributed back to iproute2?
> c) note: Our API is CRUD-ish instead of RPC(per generic netlink)
> based. i.e you have:
>  COMMAND <PATH/TO/OBJECT> [optional data]  so we can support arbitrary
> P4 programs from the control plane.
> d) we have spent many hours optimizing the control to the kernel so i
> am not sure what it would buy us to switch to generic netlink..
> 


  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-11-20 18:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-16 14:59 [PATCH net-next v8 00/15] Introducing P4TC Jamal Hadi Salim
2023-11-16 14:59 ` [PATCH net-next v8 01/15] net: sched: act_api: Introduce dynamic actions list Jamal Hadi Salim
2023-11-16 14:59 ` [PATCH net-next v8 02/15] net/sched: act_api: increase action kind string length Jamal Hadi Salim
2023-11-16 14:59 ` [PATCH net-next v8 03/15] net/sched: act_api: Update tc_action_ops to account for dynamic actions Jamal Hadi Salim
2023-11-16 14:59 ` [PATCH net-next v8 04/15] net/sched: act_api: add struct p4tc_action_ops as a parameter to lookup callback Jamal Hadi Salim
2023-11-16 14:59 ` [PATCH net-next v8 05/15] net: sched: act_api: Add support for preallocated dynamic action instances Jamal Hadi Salim
2023-11-16 14:59 ` [PATCH net-next v8 06/15] net: introduce rcu_replace_pointer_rtnl Jamal Hadi Salim
2023-11-16 14:59 ` [PATCH net-next v8 07/15] rtnl: add helper to check if group has listeners Jamal Hadi Salim
2023-11-16 14:59 ` [PATCH net-next v8 08/15] p4tc: add P4 data types Jamal Hadi Salim
2023-11-16 16:03   ` Jiri Pirko
2023-11-17 12:01     ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2023-11-16 14:59 ` [PATCH net-next v8 09/15] p4tc: add template pipeline create, get, update, delete Jamal Hadi Salim
2023-11-16 16:11   ` Jiri Pirko
2023-11-17 12:09     ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2023-11-20  8:18       ` Jiri Pirko
2023-11-20 12:48         ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2023-11-20 13:16           ` Jiri Pirko
2023-11-20 15:30             ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2023-11-20 16:25               ` Jiri Pirko
2023-11-20 18:20       ` David Ahern [this message]
2023-11-20 20:12         ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2023-11-16 14:59 ` [PATCH net-next v8 10/15] p4tc: add action template create, update, delete, get, flush and dump Jamal Hadi Salim
2023-11-16 16:28   ` Jiri Pirko
2023-11-17 15:11     ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2023-11-20  8:19       ` Jiri Pirko
2023-11-20 13:45         ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2023-11-20 16:25           ` Jiri Pirko
2023-11-17  6:51   ` John Fastabend
2023-11-16 14:59 ` [PATCH net-next v8 11/15] p4tc: add template table " Jamal Hadi Salim
2023-11-16 14:59 ` [PATCH net-next v8 12/15] p4tc: add runtime table entry create, update, get, delete, " Jamal Hadi Salim
2023-11-16 14:59 ` [PATCH net-next v8 13/15] p4tc: add set of P4TC table kfuncs Jamal Hadi Salim
2023-11-17  7:09   ` John Fastabend
2023-11-19  9:14   ` kernel test robot
2023-11-20 22:28   ` kernel test robot
2023-11-16 14:59 ` [PATCH net-next v8 14/15] p4tc: add P4 classifier Jamal Hadi Salim
2023-11-17  7:17   ` John Fastabend
2023-11-16 14:59 ` [PATCH net-next v8 15/15] p4tc: Add P4 extern interface Jamal Hadi Salim
2023-11-16 16:42   ` Jiri Pirko
2023-11-17 12:14     ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2023-11-20  8:22       ` Jiri Pirko
2023-11-20 14:02         ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2023-11-20 16:27           ` Jiri Pirko
2023-11-20 19:00             ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2023-11-17  6:27 ` [PATCH net-next v8 00/15] Introducing P4TC John Fastabend
2023-11-17 12:49   ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2023-11-17 18:37     ` John Fastabend
2023-11-17 20:46       ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2023-11-20  9:39         ` Jiri Pirko
2023-11-20 14:23           ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2023-11-20 18:10             ` Jiri Pirko
2023-11-20 19:56               ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2023-11-20 20:41                 ` John Fastabend
2023-11-20 22:13                   ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2023-11-20 21:48                 ` Daniel Borkmann
2023-11-20 22:56                   ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2023-11-21 13:06                     ` Jiri Pirko
2023-11-21 13:47                       ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2023-11-21 14:19                         ` Jiri Pirko
2023-11-21 15:21                           ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2023-11-22  9:25                             ` Jiri Pirko
2023-11-22 15:14                               ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2023-11-22 18:31                                 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-11-22 18:50                                   ` John Fastabend
2023-11-22 19:35                                   ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2023-11-23  6:36                                     ` Jiri Pirko
2023-11-23 13:22                                       ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2023-11-23 13:34                                         ` Jiri Pirko
2023-11-23 13:45                                           ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2023-11-23 14:07                                             ` Jiri Pirko
2023-11-23 14:28                                               ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2023-11-23 15:27                                                 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-11-23 16:30                                                   ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2023-11-23 17:53                                                     ` Edward Cree
2023-11-23 18:09                                                       ` Jiri Pirko
2023-11-23 18:58                                                         ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2023-11-23 18:53                                                       ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-23 19:42                                                         ` Tom Herbert
2023-11-24 10:39                                                         ` Jiri Pirko
2023-11-23 18:04                                                     ` Jiri Pirko

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=bdbaa38c-5dd1-4060-b787-014daa2a0abe@kernel.org \
    --to=dsahern@kernel.org \
    --cc=Mahesh.Shirshyad@amd.com \
    --cc=anjali.singhai@intel.com \
    --cc=bpf@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=daniel@iogearbox.net \
    --cc=davem@davemloft.net \
    --cc=deb.chatterjee@intel.com \
    --cc=dsahern@gmail.com \
    --cc=edumazet@google.com \
    --cc=horms@kernel.org \
    --cc=jhs@mojatatu.com \
    --cc=jiri@resnulli.us \
    --cc=khalidm@nvidia.com \
    --cc=kuba@kernel.org \
    --cc=mattyk@nvidia.com \
    --cc=mleitner@redhat.com \
    --cc=namrata.limaye@intel.com \
    --cc=netdev@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=pabeni@redhat.com \
    --cc=stephen@networkplumber.org \
    --cc=toke@redhat.com \
    --cc=tom@sipanda.io \
    --cc=tomasz.osinski@intel.com \
    --cc=vladbu@nvidia.com \
    --cc=xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).