From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=3.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS, USER_AGENT_SANE_1 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 734B7C3A59F for ; Tue, 27 Aug 2019 00:17:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4546120850 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 2019 00:17:13 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="T2gqTyKX" Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1727380AbfH0ARM (ORCPT ); Mon, 26 Aug 2019 20:17:12 -0400 Received: from mail-io1-f67.google.com ([209.85.166.67]:35968 "EHLO mail-io1-f67.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1727064AbfH0ARL (ORCPT ); Mon, 26 Aug 2019 20:17:11 -0400 Received: by mail-io1-f67.google.com with SMTP id o9so41957630iom.3 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 2019 17:17:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=s85OzTJReu+oIW3VJnIwJ9EFty74gLRnV0FZ66qHfIQ=; b=T2gqTyKXKViBWlIoQfM0kVPpz5LLofsBm2lH37bVKteeIVYOWIxNH9QfKxwhrpuZNZ 18V+QMHArWisBAGToUxR/Tj0E302WT7jX7WLFjc82BivFOLWwXQQ3KDXVBDl5tFcXHO+ t8YS+bgVceSeuODL1TCMZNpzgqjeS0zKRVvNOdl7GiYLVX3CKm04zidW33OeXzo2t4bX WjE+xaefd91bQQpgILdLLrQneT3KIW7Zm4dyMqCuMjfGjbDkN1Mv9S58KN8DwbnhWtHT gs7QRybrPCNor8FufRTHMOLizTYyaqD5JI8736JaMCrcMvoDWdvh9WTWo2go8t/zI1sr 4hPQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=s85OzTJReu+oIW3VJnIwJ9EFty74gLRnV0FZ66qHfIQ=; b=OTmn8lr/MHancNaJAIR6j+yyUbvZkMY+5/yoD/o2CZpX/VdMRmlQZAGm+u1NwRhmEU GzlQsel6c0NwSPwk3bVqbXzbZqlQ55RdKMtK+bm8m6DfLgl4OVtosGRb/2RAaJc/206v BbPqzGbnRLPjUp37R8VKo/m0M7zaKkRfXAJPJqBvFuOP60v2XFT0cQwoQF5I80kK+QRe tWuXjWHn6vWdgwM1ExETiAF7mcqb0j4/jnGOvuqGfyPB/5px0ghyq2qqhczvkqo/0XTf 9g9Hijp4IYQ/TQlfFU9sgJL0j2GwFSOITUq5SnrSmYSJ0o3v9Dv6XXlEYQqUhHkXMoho eGbg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAULoLVYCrb4UZ4mfGyzc3Iu7SngN8hlgXfiSlnBp64ki0DW9yEk gyQA5YV27TEP7ioeUk2uckn5lLiA X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyDIYDQ6SZt9Bx1PdzMEtXSvDv742tLDfQlpg9yuDR5I1fAbnK+N3TJ7B0tb6ZdTzCI/4tJOA== X-Received: by 2002:a5e:c00e:: with SMTP id u14mr3591781iol.196.1566865030994; Mon, 26 Aug 2019 17:17:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.99.109] (c-73-169-115-106.hsd1.co.comcast.net. [73.169.115.106]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id z9sm18723192ior.79.2019.08.26.17.17.08 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 26 Aug 2019 17:17:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [patch net-next rfc 3/7] net: rtnetlink: add commands to add and delete alternative ifnames To: David Miller Cc: jakub.kicinski@netronome.com, jiri@resnulli.us, roopa@cumulusnetworks.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org, sthemmin@microsoft.com, dcbw@redhat.com, mkubecek@suse.cz, andrew@lunn.ch, parav@mellanox.com, saeedm@mellanox.com, mlxsw@mellanox.com References: <20190826151552.4f1a2ad9@cakuba.netronome.com> <20190826.151819.804077961408964282.davem@davemloft.net> <20190826.152525.144590581669280532.davem@davemloft.net> From: David Ahern Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2019 18:17:08 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20190826.152525.144590581669280532.davem@davemloft.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: netdev-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: netdev@vger.kernel.org On 8/26/19 4:25 PM, David Miller wrote: > From: David Ahern > Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2019 16:24:38 -0600 > >> On 8/26/19 4:18 PM, David Miller wrote: >>> I honestly think that the size of link dumps are out of hand as-is. >> >> so you are suggesting new alternate names should not appear in kernel >> generated RTM_NEWLINK messages - be it a link dump or a notification on >> a change? > > I counter with the question of how much crap can we keep sticking in there > before we have to do something else to provide that information? > Something a bit stand alone would be a better choice - like all of the VF stuff, stats, per-device type configuration. Yes, that ship has sailed, but as I recall that is where the overhead is. An attribute as basic as a name is the wrong place for that split.