From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,NICE_REPLY_A,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS,USER_AGENT_SANE_1 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E799C433DB for ; Thu, 28 Jan 2021 01:56:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29C5960C40 for ; Thu, 28 Jan 2021 01:56:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S231201AbhA1B4a (ORCPT ); Wed, 27 Jan 2021 20:56:30 -0500 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:50992 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S231124AbhA1B4B (ORCPT ); Wed, 27 Jan 2021 20:56:01 -0500 Received: from mail-pf1-x436.google.com (mail-pf1-x436.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::436]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 98028C061573 for ; Wed, 27 Jan 2021 17:55:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-pf1-x436.google.com with SMTP id w14so2971193pfi.2 for ; Wed, 27 Jan 2021 17:55:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=bjoVbSxF7JR3Qfc3Zqrjr7UJi1DL/0PDC9WyLXldlhQ=; b=hMKsvIkG+Q0WcSZRT4jcrx97LAcvPemtnZh2vtFD/jw7mgUq4ddjo/IB5h+Yk13rO2 7gFWxDHHX8dnbnZu2TgMmE8tOXLJzpodYhufHoUpcEH+QEglgicHKYF6HJi8pvs2q/KV +csv86GLp0ZiTp3KQwBAjDGKrabk0iHuy7nFhCuCxpw399DqqmoniguYYSHfPQ96Tnkn 3+X/6nXxe/fjStFe4qvtbC8hsEDyGxtq4JitaquiytjAjB51ZT1v0+cqkfutBxZGHAI4 G1qA/LaK6V+R63HLyyAQR2a66a8UYkQTYl1ywIH3UzyYjiUuH6QutMViA1u4o6KkYBrc HypQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=bjoVbSxF7JR3Qfc3Zqrjr7UJi1DL/0PDC9WyLXldlhQ=; b=KhwgiQVSsc+2JgDWuesiv3pSu5zudA35VUCQf8L6xUJgsXeLnmXwaSIFMUleJWLO4j GbuG1PYBzzdIhlRNeDvj3bL1wOHrbDsGq8abv9wRPaIIQ7sfAUq6wDyPQHr5SIGmbtTg axRMieUEP2KKvikuv1NlTG120hTEWM+asJbdbNQ67ZtXAkfRJt+edurVLeMul+N5zeDw AXQau9fp+hcXs0pF1cscJOhqdxh5qguq34GQZU7KRSZQWB8v/BjERf9FZo8AKolah8PK ImXb0PTodMAdWsUx0cfHhjFgF2c/FSPO+jbgVRDFfEI/uHTc16xOv/G0QpUuAyRJwwpi e0WA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532WOGOSfj78JjS9xwGvF19w05xSyUM0JhbdJuZ2ZsSCF8zFRxlR BI0TUrDyg7lQA6UZDNmm4uQ= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzWvbLCUzVtg7PwYVFwsM5tsBTc6/71Di1IF6GfH78nj2JEQefR9DQ+66ptxMzpeKXO8mnvMg== X-Received: by 2002:a63:2262:: with SMTP id t34mr14220670pgm.166.1611798921150; Wed, 27 Jan 2021 17:55:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.230.29.30] ([192.19.223.252]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id u126sm3601485pfu.113.2021.01.27.17.55.19 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 27 Jan 2021 17:55:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 0/4] Automatically manage DSA master interface state To: Vladimir Oltean Cc: "David S . Miller" , Jakub Kicinski , netdev@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Lunn , Vivien Didelot , Hideaki YOSHIFUJI References: <20210127010028.1619443-1-olteanv@gmail.com> <99d4c608-d821-7f87-48c1-aa1898441194@gmail.com> <20210128013028.kr6jx4xjcm3irllo@skbuf> From: Florian Fainelli Message-ID: Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2021 17:55:18 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/78.0 Thunderbird/78.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20210128013028.kr6jx4xjcm3irllo@skbuf> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: netdev@vger.kernel.org On 1/27/2021 5:30 PM, Vladimir Oltean wrote: > On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 05:03:23PM -0800, Florian Fainelli wrote: >> I really like all patches but number #2, though I don't believe there >> are existing use cases besides you one you described where it makes >> sense to keep a switch in an unmanaged mode being "headless" with its >> CPU port down, while the user-facing ports are up. > > So what should I do with #2? Every other stacked interface goes down > when its lowers go down, if that brings any consolation. I suppose it does, part of me may have just grown too used to existing model and fear a change. -- Florian