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From: Matthew Rosato <mjrosato@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Wei Xu <wexu@redhat.com>
Cc: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net, mst@redhat.com
Subject: Re: Regression in throughput between kvm guests over virtual bridge
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2017 16:17:51 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c0b42b27-56f6-c2f9-9476-28d25678808a@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171012183132.qrbgnmvki6lpgt4a@Wei-Dev>

On 10/12/2017 02:31 PM, Wei Xu wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 05, 2017 at 04:07:45PM -0400, Matthew Rosato wrote:
>>
>> Ping...  Jason, any other ideas or suggestions?
> 
> Hi Matthew,
> Recently I am doing similar test on x86 for this patch, here are some,
> differences between our testbeds.
> 
> 1. It is nice you have got improvement with 50+ instances(or connections here?)
> which would be quite helpful to address the issue, also you've figured out the
> cost(wait/wakeup), kindly reminder did you pin uperf client/server along the whole
> path besides vhost and vcpu threads? 

Was not previously doing any pinning whatsoever, just reproducing an
environment that one of our testers here was running.  Reducing guest
vcpu count from 4->1, still see the regression.  Then, pinned each vcpu
thread and vhost thread to a separate host CPU -- still made no
difference (regression still present).

> 
> 2. It might be useful to short the traffic path as a reference, What I am running
> is briefly like:
>     pktgen(host kernel) -> tap(x) -> guest(DPDK testpmd)
> 
> The bridge driver(br_forward(), etc) might impact performance due to my personal
> experience, so eventually I settled down with this simplified testbed which fully
> isolates the traffic from both userspace and host kernel stack(1 and 50 instances,
> bridge driver, etc), therefore reduces potential interferences.
> 
> The down side of this is that it needs DPDK support in guest, has this ever be
> run on s390x guest? An alternative approach is to directly run XDP drop on
> virtio-net nic in guest, while this requires compiling XDP inside guest which needs
> a newer distro(Fedora 25+ in my case or Ubuntu 16.10, not sure).
> 

I made an attempt at DPDK, but it has not been run on s390x as far as
I'm aware and didn't seem trivial to get working.

So instead I took your alternate suggestion & did:
pktgen(host) -> tap(x) -> guest(xdp_drop)

When running this setup, I am not able to reproduce the regression.  As
mentioned previously, I am also unable to reproduce when running one end
of the uperf connection from the host - I have only ever been able to
reproduce when both ends of the uperf connection are running within a guest.

> 3. BTW, did you enable hugepage for your guest? It would  performance more
> or less depends on the memory demand when generating traffic, I didn't see
> similar command lines in yours.
> 

s390x does not currently support passing through hugetlb backing via
QEMU mem-path.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-10-18 20:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-12 17:56 Regression in throughput between kvm guests over virtual bridge Matthew Rosato
2017-09-13  1:16 ` Jason Wang
2017-09-13  8:13   ` Jason Wang
2017-09-13 16:59     ` Matthew Rosato
2017-09-14  4:21       ` Jason Wang
2017-09-15  3:36         ` Matthew Rosato
2017-09-15  8:55           ` Jason Wang
2017-09-15 19:19             ` Matthew Rosato
2017-09-18  3:13               ` Jason Wang
2017-09-18  4:14                 ` [PATCH] vhost_net: conditionally enable tx polling kbuild test robot
2017-09-18  7:36                 ` Regression in throughput between kvm guests over virtual bridge Jason Wang
2017-09-18 18:11                   ` Matthew Rosato
2017-09-20  6:27                     ` Jason Wang
2017-09-20 19:38                       ` Matthew Rosato
2017-09-22  4:03                         ` Jason Wang
2017-09-25 20:18                           ` Matthew Rosato
2017-10-05 20:07                             ` Matthew Rosato
2017-10-11  2:41                               ` Jason Wang
2017-10-12 18:31                               ` Wei Xu
2017-10-18 20:17                                 ` Matthew Rosato [this message]
2017-10-23  2:06                                   ` Jason Wang
2017-10-23  2:13                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-10-25 20:21                                     ` Matthew Rosato
2017-10-26  9:44                                       ` Wei Xu
2017-10-26 17:53                                         ` Matthew Rosato
2017-10-31  7:07                                           ` Wei Xu
2017-10-31  7:00                                             ` Jason Wang
2017-11-03  4:30                                             ` Matthew Rosato
2017-11-04 23:35                                               ` Wei Xu
2017-11-08  1:02                                                 ` Matthew Rosato
2017-11-11 20:59                                                   ` Matthew Rosato
2017-11-12 18:34                                                     ` Wei Xu
2017-11-14 20:11                                                       ` Matthew Rosato
2017-11-20 19:25                                                         ` Matthew Rosato
2017-11-27 16:21                                                           ` Wei Xu
2017-11-28  1:36                                                             ` Jason Wang
2017-11-28  2:44                                                               ` Matthew Rosato
2017-11-28 18:00                                                                 ` Wei Xu
2017-11-28  3:51                                                               ` Wei Xu
2017-11-12 15:40                                                   ` Wei Xu
2017-10-23 13:57                                   ` Wei Xu
2017-10-25 20:31                                     ` Matthew Rosato

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