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From: "Ziemba, Ian" <ian.ziemba@hpe.com>
To: Sean Hefty <shefty@nvidia.com>, Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
Cc: Bernard Metzler <BMT@zurich.ibm.com>,
	Roland Dreier <roland@enfabrica.net>,
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	Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 00/13] Ultra Ethernet driver introduction
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2025 14:32:34 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c1b9d002-85f5-420e-b452-d6f2a11720d4@hpe.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DM6PR12MB4313B2D54F3CA0F84336EB71BDA82@DM6PR12MB4313.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>

> There's also the MR relationship:
> 
> Job <- 1 --- 0..n -> MR <- 0..n --- 1 -> PD

Current UE memory registration is centered around the libfabric
FI_MR_ENDPOINT mode which states memory regions are associated with an
endpoint instead of libfabric domain. For remotely accessible UE MRs,
this translates to the following.

- Relative Addressing: {job ID, endpoint, RKEY} identifies the MR.

- Absolute Addressing: {endpoint, RKEY} identifies the MR with optional
  MR job-ID access control check.

In addition, UE memory registration supports user-defined RKEYs. This
enables programming model implementations the optimization to use
well-known per process endpoint RKEYs. For relative addressing, this
could result in the same RKEY value existing multiple times at the
{job ID} level, but only once at the {job ID, endpoint} level.

The UE remote MR relationship would look like:

Job <- 1 --- 0..n -> EP <- 0..n ---------------------- 1 -> PD
                      ^                                      ^
                      |--- 1 --- 0..n -> MR <- 0..n --- 1 ---|

> There's discussion on defining this relationship:
> 
> Job <- 0..n --- 1 -> PD
> 
> I can't think of a technical reason why that's needed.

From my UE perspective, I agree. UE needs to share job IDs across
processes while still having inter-process isolation for things like
local memory registrations.

Thanks,

Ian

  reply	other threads:[~2025-04-07 20:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-06 23:01 [RFC PATCH 00/13] Ultra Ethernet driver introduction Nikolay Aleksandrov
2025-03-06 23:01 ` [RFC PATCH 01/13] drivers: ultraeth: add initial skeleton and kconfig option Nikolay Aleksandrov
2025-03-06 23:01 ` [RFC PATCH 02/13] drivers: ultraeth: add context support Nikolay Aleksandrov
2025-03-06 23:01 ` [RFC PATCH 03/13] drivers: ultraeth: add new genl family Nikolay Aleksandrov
2025-03-06 23:01 ` [RFC PATCH 04/13] drivers: ultraeth: add job support Nikolay Aleksandrov
2025-03-06 23:01 ` [RFC PATCH 05/13] drivers: ultraeth: add tunnel udp device support Nikolay Aleksandrov
2025-03-06 23:01 ` [RFC PATCH 06/13] drivers: ultraeth: add initial PDS infrastructure Nikolay Aleksandrov
2025-03-06 23:01 ` [RFC PATCH 07/13] drivers: ultraeth: add request and ack receive support Nikolay Aleksandrov
2025-03-06 23:01 ` [RFC PATCH 08/13] drivers: ultraeth: add request transmit support Nikolay Aleksandrov
2025-03-06 23:01 ` [RFC PATCH 09/13] drivers: ultraeth: add support for coalescing ack Nikolay Aleksandrov
2025-03-06 23:02 ` [RFC PATCH 10/13] drivers: ultraeth: add sack support Nikolay Aleksandrov
2025-03-06 23:02 ` [RFC PATCH 11/13] drivers: ultraeth: add nack support Nikolay Aleksandrov
2025-03-06 23:02 ` [RFC PATCH 12/13] drivers: ultraeth: add initiator and target idle timeout support Nikolay Aleksandrov
2025-03-06 23:02 ` [RFC PATCH 13/13] HACK: drivers: ultraeth: add char device Nikolay Aleksandrov
2025-03-08 18:46 ` [RFC PATCH 00/13] Ultra Ethernet driver introduction Leon Romanovsky
2025-03-09  3:21   ` Parav Pandit
2025-03-11 14:20     ` Bernard Metzler
2025-03-11 14:55       ` Leon Romanovsky
2025-03-11 17:11       ` Sean Hefty
2025-03-12  9:20         ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2025-03-12  9:40   ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2025-03-12 11:29     ` Leon Romanovsky
2025-03-12 14:20       ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2025-03-12 15:10         ` Leon Romanovsky
2025-03-12 16:00           ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2025-03-14 14:53           ` Bernard Metzler
2025-03-17 12:52             ` Leon Romanovsky
2025-03-19 13:52             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-19 14:02               ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2025-03-14 20:51           ` Stanislav Fomichev
2025-03-17 12:30             ` Leon Romanovsky
2025-03-19 19:12               ` Stanislav Fomichev
2025-03-15 20:49           ` Netlink vs ioctl WAS(Re: " Jamal Hadi Salim
2025-03-17 12:57             ` Leon Romanovsky
2025-03-18 22:49             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-19 18:21               ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2025-03-19 19:19                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-25 14:12                   ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2025-03-26 15:50                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-04-08 14:16                       ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2025-04-09 16:10                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-19 16:48 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-20 11:13   ` Yunsheng Lin
2025-03-20 14:32     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-20 20:05       ` Sean Hefty
2025-03-20 20:12         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-21  2:02           ` Yunsheng Lin
2025-03-21 12:01             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-24 20:22   ` Roland Dreier
2025-03-24 21:28     ` Sean Hefty
2025-03-25 13:22       ` Bernard Metzler
2025-03-25 17:02         ` Sean Hefty
2025-03-26 14:45           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-26 15:29             ` Sean Hefty
2025-03-26 15:53               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-26 17:39                 ` Sean Hefty
2025-03-27 13:26                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-28 12:20                     ` Yunsheng Lin
2025-03-31 19:49                       ` Sean Hefty
2025-04-01  9:19                         ` Yunsheng Lin
2025-03-31 19:29                     ` Sean Hefty
2025-04-01 13:04                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-04-01 16:57                         ` Sean Hefty
2025-04-01 19:39                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-04-03  1:30                             ` Sean Hefty
2025-04-04 16:03                             ` Ziemba, Ian
2025-04-05  1:07                               ` Sean Hefty
2025-04-07 19:32                                 ` Ziemba, Ian [this message]
2025-04-08  4:40                                   ` Sean Hefty
2025-04-16 23:58                                   ` Sean Hefty
2025-04-17  1:23                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-04-17  2:59                                       ` Sean Hefty
2025-04-17 13:31                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-04-18 16:50                                           ` Sean Hefty
2025-04-22 15:44                                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-26 15:16     ` Jason Gunthorpe

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