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From: David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com>
To: Martin KaFai Lau <kafai@fb.com>, Julian Anastasov <ja@ssi.bg>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, Tom Herbert <tom@herbertland.com>,
	Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>,
	Nikita Shirokov <tehnerd@fb.com>,
	kernel-team@fb.com, lvs-devel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC net-next] net: ipvs: Adjust gso_size for IPPROTO_TCP
Date: Thu, 3 May 2018 21:50:49 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c6714a4f-72c4-51e8-baf5-77505d5fb1a6@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180503070114.bcuusvzga45klccs@kafai-mbp>

On 5/3/18 1:01 AM, Martin KaFai Lau wrote:
> On Wed, May 02, 2018 at 10:30:32PM +0300, Julian Anastasov wrote:
>>
>> 	Hello,
>>
>> On Wed, 2 May 2018, Martin KaFai Lau wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, May 02, 2018 at 09:38:43AM +0300, Julian Anastasov wrote:
>>>>
>>>> - initial traffic for port 21 does not use GSO. But after
>>>> every packet IPVS calls maybe_update_pmtu (rt->dst.ops->update_pmtu)
>>>> to report the reduced MTU. These updates are stored in fnhe_pmtu
>>>> but they do not go to any route, even if we try to get fresh
>>>> output route. Why? Because the local routes are not cached, so
>>>> they can not use the fnhe. This is what my patch for route.c
>>>> will fix. With this fix FTP-DATA gets route with reduced PMTU.
>>> For IPv6, the 'if (rt6->rt6i_flags & RTF_LOCAL)' gate in
>>> __ip6_rt_update_pmtu() may need to be lifted also.
>>
>> 	Probably. I completely forgot the IPv6 part
>> but as I don't know the IPv6 code enough, it may take
>> some time to understand what can be the problem there...
>> I'm not sure whether everything started with commit 0a6b2a1dc2a2,
>> so that in some configurations before that commit things
>> worked and problem was not noticed.
>>
>> 	I think, we should focus on such direction for IPv6:
>>
>> - do we remember per-VIP PMTU for the local routes
> IPv6 used not to create cache route for DST_HOST route which
> is a /128 route (that includes local /128 route).
> 
> Because of this, it had a bug such that a PMTU for the DST_HOST
> route will trigger dst.ops->update_pmtu() which then set
> an expire on the permanent /128 route instead of a cache
> route.  The permanent route got unexpectedly expired/removed
> later.
> 
> The fix was to allow creating /128 cache route as long as
> it is not RTF_LOCAL in 653437d02f1f and 7035870d1219.  The
> first post spelled out the problem better:
> https://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/456050/
> 
> Later, when we only create cache route after seeing PMTU
> in 45e4fd26683c, this RTF_LOCAL checking was carried over
> to __ip6_rt_update_pmtu().
> 
> Out of my head, I don't see issue removing the
> RTF_LOCAL check from __ip6_rt_update_pmtu().
> DavidA, what do you think?

I agree; I think it is fine. A route is route. The IPVS use cases with
local redirects are blurring the line with needs for local routes.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-05-04  3:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-19 21:23 [PATCH RFC net-next] net: ipvs: Adjust gso_size for IPPROTO_TCP Martin KaFai Lau
2018-04-20 20:43 ` Julian Anastasov
2018-04-20 23:13   ` Martin KaFai Lau
2018-05-02  6:38 ` Julian Anastasov
2018-05-02 17:10   ` Martin KaFai Lau
2018-05-02 19:30     ` Julian Anastasov
2018-05-03  7:01       ` Martin KaFai Lau
2018-05-04  3:50         ` David Ahern [this message]
2018-05-05 12:58         ` Julian Anastasov
2018-05-07 16:22           ` Martin KaFai Lau
2018-05-07 17:00             ` Julian Anastasov
2018-06-05 21:31           ` Martin KaFai Lau
2018-06-05 22:35             ` Julian Anastasov

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