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From: David Ahern <dsahern@kernel.org>
To: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
Cc: roopa@nvidia.com, razor@blackwall.org, bridge@lists.linux.dev,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, liuhangbin@gmail.com,
	Tobias Waldekranz <tobias@waldekranz.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 iproute2 0/4] Multiple Spanning Tree (MST) Support
Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2024 10:16:11 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c83bb901-686e-4507-b4b1-020ae86d2381@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240706125616.690e7b98@hermes.local>

On 7/6/24 1:56 PM, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> The original point was to have kernel -next and iproute2 -next branches
> and have support arrive at same time on both sides. The problem is when
> developers get behind, and the iproute2 patches arrive after the kernel cycle
> and then would end up get delayed another 3 to 4 months.

Then the userspace patches should be sent when the kernel patches are
merged. Period. no excuses. Any delay is on the developer.

> 
> Example:
> 	If mst had been submitted during 6.9 -next open window, then
> 	it would have arrived in iproute2 when -next was merged in May 2024 and
> 	would get released concurrently with 6.10 (July 2024).
> 	When MST was submitted later, if it goes through -next, then it would
> 	get merged to main in August 2024 and released concurrently with 6.11
> 	in October. By merging to main, it will be in July.

Same exact problem with netkit and I told Daniel no. We have a
development policy for new features; it must apply across the board to
all of them.

> 
> I understand your concern, and probably better not to have done it.

You applied patches for a new feature just a week or two before release.
It is just wrong. It would be best to either back up the branch or
revert them.

> The problem with accepting things early is the review process gets
> truncated, and new features often have lots of feedback.
> 

I see no problem here; that is normal development work.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-07-07 16:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-07-02 12:08 [PATCH v3 iproute2 0/4] Multiple Spanning Tree (MST) Support Tobias Waldekranz
2024-07-02 12:08 ` [PATCH v3 iproute2 1/4] ip: bridge: add support for mst_enabled Tobias Waldekranz
2024-07-02 12:08 ` [PATCH v3 iproute2 2/4] bridge: Remove duplicated textification macros Tobias Waldekranz
2024-07-02 12:08 ` [PATCH v3 iproute2 3/4] bridge: vlan: Add support for setting a VLANs MSTI Tobias Waldekranz
2024-07-02 12:08 ` [PATCH v3 iproute2 4/4] bridge: mst: Add get/set support for MST states Tobias Waldekranz
2024-07-05 17:31 ` [PATCH v3 iproute2 0/4] Multiple Spanning Tree (MST) Support patchwork-bot+netdevbpf
2024-07-06  0:53   ` David Ahern
2024-07-06  3:49     ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-07-06 15:26       ` David Ahern
2024-07-06 19:56         ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-07-07 16:16           ` David Ahern [this message]
2024-07-07 21:16             ` Stephen Hemminger
2024-07-08 22:40 ` patchwork-bot+netdevbpf

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