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From: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.ibm.com>
To: Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 00/12] vfs: change inode->i_ino from unsigned long to u64
Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2026 15:00:04 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c9500adc562665d44feaca9206f23a5ba07432c1.camel@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f22758116dabd3c135a833bcb5cfcd2ea4f6ecf4.camel@kernel.org>

On Mon, 2026-03-09 at 13:59 -0400, Jeff Layton wrote:
> On Mon, 2026-03-09 at 13:47 -0400, Mimi Zohar wrote:
> > [ I/O socket time out.  Trimming the To list.]
> > 
> > On Wed, 2026-03-04 at 10:32 -0500, Jeff Layton wrote:
> > > This version squashes all of the format-string changes and the i_ino
> > > type change into the same patch. This results in a giant 600+ line patch
> > > at the end of the series, but it does remain bisectable.  Because the
> > > patchset was reorganized (again) some of the R-b's and A-b's have been
> > > dropped.
> > > 
> > > The entire pile is in the "iino-u64" branch of my tree, if anyone is
> > > interested in testing this.
> > > 
> > >     https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/jlayton/linux.git/
> > > 
> > > Original cover letter follows:
> > > 
> > > ----------------------8<-----------------------
> > > 
> > > Christian said [1] to "just do it" when I proposed this, so here we are!
> > > 
> > > For historical reasons, the inode->i_ino field is an unsigned long,
> > > which means that it's 32 bits on 32 bit architectures. This has caused a
> > > number of filesystems to implement hacks to hash a 64-bit identifier
> > > into a 32-bit field, and deprives us of a universal identifier field for
> > > an inode.
> > > 
> > > This patchset changes the inode->i_ino field from an unsigned long to a
> > > u64. This shouldn't make any material difference on 64-bit hosts, but
> > > 32-bit hosts will see struct inode grow by at least 4 bytes. This could
> > > have effects on slabcache sizes and field alignment.
> > > 
> > > The bulk of the changes are to format strings and tracepoints, since the
> > > kernel itself doesn't care that much about the i_ino field. The first
> > > patch changes some vfs function arguments, so check that one out
> > > carefully.
> > > 
> > > With this change, we may be able to shrink some inode structures. For
> > > instance, struct nfs_inode has a fileid field that holds the 64-bit
> > > inode number. With this set of changes, that field could be eliminated.
> > > I'd rather leave that sort of cleanups for later just to keep this
> > > simple.
> > > 
> > > Much of this set was generated by LLM, but I attributed it to myself
> > > since I consider this to be in the "menial tasks" category of LLM usage.
> > > 
> > > [1]: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-fsdevel/20260219-portrait-winkt-959070cee42f@brauner/
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>
> > 
> > Jeff, missing from this patch set is EVM.  In hmac_add_misc() EVM copies the
> > i_ino and calculates either an HMAC or file meta-data hash, which is then
> > signed. 
> > 
> > 
> 
> Thanks Mimi, good catch.
> 
> It looks like we should just be able to change the ino field to a u64
> alongside everything else. Something like this:
> 
> diff --git a/security/integrity/evm/evm_crypto.c b/security/integrity/evm/evm_crypto.c
> index c0ca4eedb0fe..77b6c2fa345e 100644
> --- a/security/integrity/evm/evm_crypto.c
> +++ b/security/integrity/evm/evm_crypto.c
> @@ -144,7 +144,7 @@ static void hmac_add_misc(struct shash_desc *desc, struct inode *inode,
>                           char type, char *digest)
>  {
>         struct h_misc {
> -               unsigned long ino;
> +               u64 ino;
>                 __u32 generation;
>                 uid_t uid;
>                 gid_t gid;
> 

Agreed.

> 
> That should make no material difference on 64-bit hosts. What's the
> effect on 32-bit? Will they just need to remeasure everything or would
> the consequences be more dire? Do we have any clue whether anyone is
> using EVM in 32-bit environments?

All good questions. Unfortunately I don't know the answer to most of them. What
we do know: changing the size of the i_ino field would affect EVM file metadata
verification and would require relabeling the filesystem.  Even packages
containing EVM portable signatures, which don't include or verify the i_ino
number, would be affected.

Mimi





  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-09 19:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-04 15:32 [PATCH v3 00/12] vfs: change inode->i_ino from unsigned long to u64 Jeff Layton
2026-03-04 15:32 ` [PATCH v3 01/12] vfs: widen inode hash/lookup functions " Jeff Layton
2026-03-05 14:24   ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-03-06 12:03     ` Jeff Layton
2026-03-06 13:28       ` Christian Brauner
2026-03-04 15:32 ` [PATCH v3 02/12] audit: widen ino fields " Jeff Layton
2026-03-06  3:09   ` Paul Moore
2026-03-04 15:32 ` [PATCH v3 03/12] net: change sock.sk_ino and sock_i_ino() " Jeff Layton
2026-03-04 15:32 ` [PATCH v3 04/12] vfs: widen trace event i_ino fields " Jeff Layton
2026-03-05  9:43   ` Jan Kara
2026-03-04 15:32 ` [PATCH v3 05/12] cachefiles: " Jeff Layton
2026-03-04 15:32 ` [PATCH v3 06/12] ext2: " Jeff Layton
2026-03-05  9:44   ` Jan Kara
2026-03-04 15:32 ` [PATCH v3 07/12] hugetlbfs: " Jeff Layton
2026-03-04 15:32 ` [PATCH v3 08/12] zonefs: " Jeff Layton
2026-03-04 21:41   ` Damien Le Moal
2026-03-04 15:32 ` [PATCH v3 09/12] ext4: " Jeff Layton
2026-03-04 15:32 ` [PATCH v3 10/12] f2fs: " Jeff Layton
2026-03-04 15:32 ` [PATCH v3 11/12] nilfs2: " Jeff Layton
2026-03-04 15:32 ` [PATCH v3 12/12] treewide: change inode->i_ino from unsigned long " Jeff Layton
2026-03-04 15:49   ` Chuck Lever
2026-03-04 21:41   ` Damien Le Moal
2026-03-05  9:57   ` Jan Kara
2026-03-05 14:25   ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-03-06  9:09 ` [PATCH v3 00/12] vfs: " Christian Brauner
2026-03-09 17:47 ` Mimi Zohar
2026-03-09 17:59   ` Jeff Layton
2026-03-09 19:00     ` Mimi Zohar [this message]
2026-03-09 19:33       ` Jeff Layton
2026-03-09 20:11         ` Mimi Zohar
2026-03-09 20:50           ` Jeff Layton

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