From: Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>
To: Jordan Rife <jordan@jrife.io>, bpf@vger.kernel.org
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
Martin KaFai Lau <martin.lau@linux.dev>,
Stanislav Fomichev <sdf@fomichev.me>,
Jiayuan Chen <jiayuan.chen@linux.dev>,
Paul Chaignon <paul.chaignon@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 bpf-next 1/2] bpf: Support BPF_F_EGRESS with bpf_redirect_peer
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2026 19:53:53 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ca79d73d-a01c-407a-aef4-e41c931aed82@iogearbox.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260618182035.43811-2-jordan@jrife.io>
On 6/18/26 8:20 PM, Jordan Rife wrote:
> We have several use cases where a pod injects traffic into the datapath
> of another so that the traffic appears to have originated from that
> pod. One such use case is a synthetic flow generator which injects
> synthetic traffic into a pod's datapath to enable dynamic probing and
> debugging. Another is a transparent proxy where connections originating
> from one pod are redirected towards another which proxies that
> connection. The new connection is bound to the IP of the original pod
> using IP_TRANSPARENT and its traffic is injected into that pod's
> datapath and handled as if it had originated there. This can be used for
> mTLS, etc.
>
> We use bpf_redirect(BPF_F_INGRESS) to direct traffic leaving the proxy,
> flow generator, etc. towards the target pod, ensuring that eBPF programs
> that are meant to intercept traffic leaving that pod are executed.
> However, this doesn't work with netkit.
>
> With netkit, an ingress redirection from proxy to workload skips eBPF
> programs that are meant to intercept traffic leaving the pod, since they
> reside on the netkit peer device. One workaround is to attach the
> same program to both the netkit peer device and the TCX ingress hook for
> the netkit pair's primary interface, but
>
> a) This seems hacky and we need to be careful not to run the same
> program twice for the same skb in cases where we want to pass that
> traffic to the host stack.
> b) We're trying to keep the proxy redirection / traffic injection
> systems as modular and separated from Cilium as possible, the system
> that manages netkit setup and core eBPF programming.
>
> It would be handy if instead we could redirect traffic directly from
> one netkit peer device to another. This patch proposes an extension
> to bpf_redirect_peer to allow us to do just that.
>
> With this patch, the BPF_F_EGRESS flag tells bpf_redirect_peer to emit
> the skb in the egress direction of the target interface's peer device
> While the main use case is netkit, I suppose you could also use this
> mode with veth as well if, e.g., there were some eBPF programs attached
> to that side of the veth pair that needed to intercept traffic.
>
> +---------------------------------------------------------------------+
> | +-------------------------+ 6. bpf_redirect_neigh(eth0) |
> | | pod (10.244.0.10) | ------------------------ |
> | | | | | |
> | | +--------+ | | +---------+ | |
> | | 1. packet -->| | | | | | | |
> | | leaves ^ | netkit |<===========|======| netkit | | |
> | | | | peer |=======(eBPF)=====>| primary | | |
> | | | | | | | | | | |
> | | | +--------+ | | +---------+ | |
> | | | | | 2. bpf_redirect v |
> | +-----------|-------------+ |___________________ +-------|
> | | | | eth0 |
> | | 5. bpf_redirect_peer(BPF_F_EGRESS) | +-------|
> | |________________________ | |
> | +-------------------------+ | | |
> | | proxy (10.244.0.11) | | | |
> | | IP_TRANSPARENT | | | |
> | | +--------+ | | +---------+ | |
> | | 3. packet <--| | | | | |<-- |
> | | enters | netkit |<===========|======| netkit | |
> | | [proxy] | peer |=======(eBPF)=====>| primary | |
> | | 4. packet -->| | | | | |
> | | leaves +--------+ | +---------+ |
> | | sip=10.244.0.10 | |
> | +-------------------------+ |
> +---------------------------------------------------------------------+
>
> Using the proxy use case as an example, in step 5 we would redirect
> traffic leaving the proxy towards the pod's peer device using
> bpf_redirect_peer(BPF_F_EGRESS).
>
> As a bonus, since the skb doesn't have to go through the backlog queue
> it can take full advantage of netkit's performance benefits. I set up a
> test where outgoing iperf3 traffic is injected into the datapath of
> another pod using either bpf_redirect_peer(BPF_F_EGRESS) or
> bpf_redirect(BPF_F_INGRESS). I used Cilium's eBPF host routing mode
> which skips the host stack and uses BPF redirect helpers to do all the
> routing.
>
> (net.ipv4.tcp_congestion_control=cubic,mtu=1500,100GiB link,Cilium
> eBPF host routing mode)
>
> BASELINE [bpf_redirect(BPF_F_INGRESS)]
> 1. [iperf pod] ==bpf_redirect([pod b], BPF_F_INGRESS)==> [pod b]
> 2. [pod b] ==bpf_redirect_neigh([eth0])==> eth0
> 3. eth0 ==over network==> [host b]
>
> [ ID] Interval Transfer Bitrate Retr
> [ 5] 0.00-60.00 sec 231 GBytes 33.0 Gbits/sec 12060 sender
> [ 5] 0.00-60.00 sec 230 GBytes 33.0 Gbits/sec receiver
>
> TEST [bpf_redirect_peer(BPF_F_EGRESS)]
> 1. [iperf pod] ==bpf_redirect_peer([pod b], BPF_F_EGRESS)==> [pod b]
> 2. [pod b] ==bpf_redirect_neigh([eth0])==> eth0
> 3. eth0 ==over network==> [host b]
>
> [ ID] Interval Transfer Bitrate Retr
> [ 5] 0.00-60.00 sec 272 GBytes 38.9 Gbits/sec 0 sender
> [ 5] 0.00-60.00 sec 272 GBytes 38.9 Gbits/sec receiver
>
> In this test, using bpf_redirect_peer(BPF_F_EGRESS) for the hop from
> [iperf pod] to [pod b] led to ~18% more throughput compared to
> bpf_redirect(BPF_F_INGRESS).
>
> Signed-off-by: Jordan Rife <jordan@jrife.io>
Acked-by: Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-06-24 17:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-06-18 18:20 [PATCH v2 bpf-next 0/2] bpf: bpf_redirect_peer egress redirection Jordan Rife
2026-06-18 18:20 ` [PATCH v2 bpf-next 1/2] bpf: Support BPF_F_EGRESS with bpf_redirect_peer Jordan Rife
2026-06-24 17:53 ` Daniel Borkmann [this message]
2026-06-18 18:20 ` [PATCH v2 bpf-next 2/2] selftests/bpf: Add tests for bpf_redirect_peer with BPF_F_EGRESS Jordan Rife
2026-06-24 17:54 ` Daniel Borkmann
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