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Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/13 RFC net-next] net: ipv4: introduce CONFIG_IPV4 to decouple the IPv4 stack
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2026 16:57:02 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d126eb95-4f57-43f7-8cde-31f201d3dad0@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <713178ff-0fb2-4f1b-90bc-9841cd42c20e@app.fastmail.com>

On 7/13/26 4:22 PM, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 13, 2026, at 16:00, Fernando Fernandez Mancera wrote:
>> On 7/12/26 1:01 PM, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
>>> On Sun, Jul 12, 2026, at 03:38, Fernando Fernandez Mancera wrote:
>>>> Historically, the IPv4 protocol has been linked to the core INET
>>>> subsystem. Because shared infrastructure like the TCP/UDP engine,
>>>> routing or INET hashtables live inside net/ipv4/, it has been impossible
>>>> to compile a kernel with only IPv6 support.
>>>>
>>>> This patch introduces the CONFIG_IPV4 Kconfig symbol, which is set to
>>>> 'def_bool y' for now. This does not allow to completely disable the
>>>> IPv4 stack yet but it lays the necessary build-system work for that
>>>> goal.
>>>
>>> I expect this will cause additional (trivial) build regression in the
>>> next step when randconfig builds run into obscure corner cases, either
>>> with INET=y IPV4=n IPV6=y or with INET=y IPV4=n IPV6=n.
>>>
>>> I can probably give your patch (with IPV4 visible or disabled) an
>>> early go on the randconfig tree to find these more quickly.
>>> If I run into regressions, should I just add more 'depends on IPV4',
>>> or do you have other plans?
>>>
>>
>> Yes, I have a job running randconfig and verifying nothing breaks. If
>> something breaks and it isn't core networking stack I would just make
>> the Kconfig symbol depend on IPv4.
>>
>> Then later we will have more time to write a dedicate patch so it does
>> not depend on IPv4.
> 
> Ok
> 
>>> Should we have some logic to ensure that at least one of IPV4 or
>>> IPV6 is enabled? I think this would work
>>>
>>> config IPV4
>>>         bool "The IPv4 protocol" if IPV6
>>>         default INET
>>>
>>> which only allows turning IPV4 off if IPV6 has enabled.
>>>
>>
>> I do wonder, should we? I mean, I didn't try it off but I don't see why
>> we should not allow a pure L2 system..
> 
> I expected a pure L2 system to be CONFIG_ETHERNET=y CONFIG_INET=n.
> 
> Which user-visible parts of CONFIG_INET would you want keep working
> when both v4 and v6 are disabled?
> 

Yes, you are right. So I think introducing something as you proposed 
makes sense. Right now I cannot think about something needed from INET 
for pure L2.

Thank you!
Fernando.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-07-13 14:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-12  1:38 [PATCH 00/13 RFC net-next] Allow compiling an IPv6-only kernel network stack Fernando Fernandez Mancera
2026-07-12  1:38 ` [PATCH 01/13 RFC net-next] net: ipv4: introduce CONFIG_IPV4 to decouple the IPv4 stack Fernando Fernandez Mancera
2026-07-12 11:01   ` Arnd Bergmann
2026-07-13 14:00     ` Fernando Fernandez Mancera
2026-07-13 14:22       ` Arnd Bergmann
2026-07-13 14:57         ` Fernando Fernandez Mancera [this message]
2026-07-12  1:39 ` [PATCH 02/13 RFC net-next] net: core: add IPv4 fallback stubs and guards for CONFIG_IPV4=n Fernando Fernandez Mancera
2026-07-12  1:39 ` [PATCH 03/13 RFC net-next] net: inet: relocate ip_generic_getfrag and guard IPv4 socket logic Fernando Fernandez Mancera
2026-07-12  1:39 ` [PATCH 04/13 RFC net-next] net: tcp: move protocol agnostic TCP functions out of tcp_ipv4.c Fernando Fernandez Mancera
2026-07-12  1:39 ` [PATCH 05/13 RFC net-next] net: raw: split IPv4 specific logic into raw_ipv4.c Fernando Fernandez Mancera
2026-07-12  1:39 ` [PATCH 06/13 RFC net-next] net: udp: split IPv4 specific logic into udp_ipv4.c Fernando Fernandez Mancera
2026-07-12  1:39 ` [PATCH 07/13 RFC net-next] net: icmp: split IPv4 specific logic into icmp_ipv4.c Fernando Fernandez Mancera
2026-07-12  1:39 ` [PATCH 08/13 RFC net-next] net: ping: split IPv4 specific logic into ping_ipv4.c Fernando Fernandez Mancera
2026-07-12  1:39 ` [PATCH 09/13 RFC net-next] net: fib: split common nexthop logic to fib_core.c Fernando Fernandez Mancera
2026-07-12  1:39 ` [PATCH 10/13 RFC net-next] net: tunnel: guard IPv4 tunnel functions with CONFIG_IPV4 Fernando Fernandez Mancera
2026-07-12  1:39 ` [PATCH 11/13 RFC net-next] net: cipso: guard IPv4 packet manipulation functions Fernando Fernandez Mancera
2026-07-12 16:22   ` Paul Moore
2026-07-13 14:03     ` Fernando Fernandez Mancera
2026-07-12  1:39 ` [PATCH 12/13 RFC net-next] netfilter: ipv4: guard ip_route_me_harder() with CONFIG_IPV4 Fernando Fernandez Mancera
2026-07-12  1:39 ` [PATCH 13/13 RFC net-next] net: ipv4: make CONFIG_IPV4 boolean Fernando Fernandez Mancera

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