From: "Jerry Chu" <hkchu@google.com>
To: netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Socket buffer sizes with autotuning
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 16:29:58 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <d1c2719f0804231629p4536e98do668b812e34d2b92c@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
I've been seeing the same problem here and am trying to fix it.
My fix is to not count those pkts still in the host queue as "prior_in_flight"
when feeding the latter to tcp_cong_avoid(). This should cause
tcp_is_cwnd_limited() test to fail when the previous in_flight build-up
is all due to the large host queue, and stop the cwnd to grow beyond
what's really necessary.
"sysctl_tcp_tso_win_divisor causes cwnd" also unnecessarily inflates
cwnd quite a bit when TSO is enabled.
Jerry
From: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
>
>
> Date: Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 8:59 PM
>
> Subject: Re: Socket buffer sizes with autotuning
> To: johnwheffner@gmail.com
> Cc: rick.jones2@hp.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org
>
>
> From: "John Heffner" <johnwheffner@gmail.com>
> Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 19:17:39 -0700
>
>
>
> > On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 5:38 PM, Rick Jones <rick.jones2@hp.com> wrote:
> > > oslowest:~# netstat -an | grep ESTAB
> > > ...
> > > tcp 0 2760560 10.208.0.1:40500 10.208.0.45:42049 ESTABLISHED
> > > ...
> > >
> > > Is this expected behaviour?
> >
>
> > What is your interface txqueuelen and mtu? If you have a very large
> > interface queue, TCP will happily fill it up unless you are using a
> > delay-based congestion controller.
>
>
> Yes, that's the fundamental problem with loss based congestion
> control. If there are any queues in the path, TCP will fill them up.
>
> Vegas and other similar techniques are able to avoid this, but come
> with the fundamental flaw that it's easy to get them into situations
> where they do not respond to increases in pipe space adequately, and
> thus underperform compared to loss based algorithms.
>
>
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next reply other threads:[~2008-04-23 23:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-04-23 23:29 Jerry Chu [this message]
2008-04-24 16:32 ` Socket buffer sizes with autotuning John Heffner
2008-04-25 0:49 ` Jerry Chu
2008-04-25 6:46 ` David Miller
2008-04-25 21:29 ` Jerry Chu
2008-04-25 21:35 ` David Miller
2008-04-28 18:30 ` Jerry Chu
2008-04-28 19:21 ` John Heffner
2008-04-28 20:44 ` Jerry Chu
2008-04-28 23:22 ` [PATCH 1/2] [NET]: Allow send-limited cwnd to grow up to max_burst when gso disabled John Heffner
2008-04-28 23:22 ` [PATCH 2/2] [NET]: Limit cwnd growth when deferring for GSO John Heffner
[not found] ` <d1c2719f0804281338j3984cf2bga31def0c2c1192a1@mail.gmail.com>
2008-04-28 23:28 ` Socket buffer sizes with autotuning John Heffner
2008-04-28 23:35 ` David Miller
2008-04-29 2:20 ` Jerry Chu
2008-04-25 7:05 ` David Miller
2008-05-07 3:57 ` Jerry Chu
2008-05-07 4:27 ` David Miller
2008-05-07 18:36 ` Jerry Chu
2008-05-07 21:18 ` David Miller
2008-05-08 1:37 ` Jerry Chu
2008-05-08 1:43 ` David Miller
2008-05-08 3:33 ` Jerry Chu
2008-05-12 22:22 ` Jerry Chu
2008-05-12 22:29 ` David Miller
2008-05-12 22:31 ` David Miller
2008-05-13 3:56 ` Jerry Chu
2008-05-13 3:58 ` David Miller
2008-05-13 4:00 ` Jerry Chu
2008-05-13 4:02 ` David Miller
2008-05-17 1:13 ` Jerry Chu
2008-05-17 1:29 ` David Miller
2008-05-17 1:47 ` Jerry Chu
2008-05-12 22:58 ` Jerry Chu
2008-05-12 23:01 ` David Miller
2008-05-07 4:28 ` David Miller
2008-05-07 18:54 ` Jerry Chu
2008-05-07 21:20 ` David Miller
2008-05-08 0:16 ` Jerry Chu
[not found] <d1c2719f0804241829s1bc3f41ejf7ebbff73ed96578@mail.gmail.com>
2008-04-25 7:06 ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-25 7:28 ` David Miller
2008-04-25 7:48 ` Andi Kleen
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-04-23 0:38 Rick Jones
2008-04-23 2:17 ` John Heffner
2008-04-23 3:59 ` David Miller
2008-04-23 16:32 ` Rick Jones
2008-04-23 16:58 ` John Heffner
2008-04-23 17:24 ` Rick Jones
2008-04-23 17:41 ` John Heffner
2008-04-23 17:46 ` Rick Jones
2008-04-24 22:21 ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-24 22:39 ` John Heffner
2008-04-25 1:28 ` David Miller
[not found] ` <65634d660804242234w66455bedve44801a98e3de9d9@mail.gmail.com>
2008-04-25 6:36 ` David Miller
2008-04-25 7:42 ` Tom Herbert
2008-04-25 7:46 ` David Miller
2008-04-28 17:51 ` Tom Herbert
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