From: "Li,Rongqing" <lirongqing@baidu.com>
To: Paul Menzel <pmenzel@molgen.mpg.de>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
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Subject: RE: [外部邮件] Re: [PATCH][v4] hung_task: Panic when there are more than N hung tasks at the same time
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2025 02:09:10 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <d492d12e4e5441a2b51c3415e865fa99@baidu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <906dd11d-26db-4570-840a-e4797748c05c@molgen.mpg.de>
>
> Am 15.10.25 um 08:36 schrieb lirongqing:
> > From: Li RongQing <lirongqing@baidu.com>
> >
> > Currently, when 'hung_task_panic' is enabled, the kernel panics
> > immediately upon detecting the first hung task. However, some hung
> > tasks are transient and allow system recovery, while persistent hangs
> > should trigger a panic when accumulating beyond a threshold.
> >
> > Extend the 'hung_task_panic' sysctl to accept a threshold value
> > specifying the number of hung tasks that must be detected before
> > triggering a kernel panic. This provides finer control for
> > environments where transient hangs may occur but persistent hangs
> should be fatal.
> >
> > The sysctl now accepts:
> > - 0: don't panic (maintains original behavior)
> > - 1: panic on first hung task (maintains original behavior)
> > - N > 1: panic after N hung tasks are detected in a single scan
> >
> > This maintains backward compatibility while providing flexibility for
> > different hang scenarios.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Li RongQing <lirongqing@baidu.com>
> > Cc: Andrew Jeffery <andrew@codeconstruct.com.au>
> > Cc: Anshuman Khandual <anshuman.khandual@arm.com>
> > Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
> > Cc: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
> > Cc: Florian Wesphal <fw@strlen.de>
> > Cc: Jakub Kacinski <kuba@kernel.org>
> > Cc: Jason A. Donenfeld <jason@zx2c4.com>
> > Cc: Joel Granados <joel.granados@kernel.org>
> > Cc: Joel Stanley <joel@jms.id.au>
> > Cc: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
> > Cc: Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org>
> > Cc: Lance Yang <lance.yang@linux.dev>
> > Cc: Liam Howlett <liam.howlett@oracle.com>
> > Cc: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
> > Cc: "Masami Hiramatsu (Google)" <mhiramat@kernel.org>
> > Cc: "Paul E . McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
> > Cc: Pawan Gupta <pawan.kumar.gupta@linux.intel.com>
> > Cc: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
> > Cc: Phil Auld <pauld@redhat.com>
> > Cc: Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>
> > Cc: Russell King <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
> > Cc: Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>
> > Cc: Simon Horman <horms@kernel.org>
> > Cc: Stanislav Fomichev <sdf@fomichev.me>
> > Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
> > ---
> > diff with v3: comments modification, suggested by Lance, Masami, Randy
> > and Petr diff with v2: do not add a new sysctl, extend
> > hung_task_panic, suggested by Kees Cook
> >
> > Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt | 20
> +++++++++++++-------
> > Documentation/admin-guide/sysctl/kernel.rst | 9 +++++----
> > arch/arm/configs/aspeed_g5_defconfig | 2 +-
> > kernel/configs/debug.config | 2 +-
> > kernel/hung_task.c | 15
> ++++++++++-----
> > lib/Kconfig.debug | 9
> +++++----
> > tools/testing/selftests/wireguard/qemu/kernel.config | 2 +-
> > 7 files changed, 36 insertions(+), 23 deletions(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt
> > b/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt
> > index a51ab46..492f0bc 100644
> > --- a/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt
> > +++ b/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt
> > @@ -1992,14 +1992,20 @@
> > the added memory block itself do not be affected.
> >
> > hung_task_panic=
> > - [KNL] Should the hung task detector generate panics.
> > - Format: 0 | 1
> > + [KNL] Number of hung tasks to trigger kernel panic.
> > + Format: <int>
> > +
> > + When set to a non-zero value, a kernel panic will be triggered
> if
> > + the number of detected hung tasks reaches this value.
> > +
> > + 0: don't panic
> > + 1: panic immediately on first hung task
> > + N: panic after N hung tasks are detected in a single scan
> >
> > - A value of 1 instructs the kernel to panic when a
> > - hung task is detected. The default value is controlled
> > - by the CONFIG_BOOTPARAM_HUNG_TASK_PANIC build-time
> > - option. The value selected by this boot parameter can
> > - be changed later by the kernel.hung_task_panic sysctl.
> > + The default value is controlled by the
> > + CONFIG_BOOTPARAM_HUNG_TASK_PANIC build-time option.
> The value
> > + selected by this boot parameter can be changed later by the
> > + kernel.hung_task_panic sysctl.
> >
> > hvc_iucv= [S390] Number of z/VM IUCV hypervisor console
> (HVC)
> > terminal devices. Valid values: 0..8 diff --git
> > a/Documentation/admin-guide/sysctl/kernel.rst
> > b/Documentation/admin-guide/sysctl/kernel.rst
> > index f3ee807..0065a55 100644
> > --- a/Documentation/admin-guide/sysctl/kernel.rst
> > +++ b/Documentation/admin-guide/sysctl/kernel.rst
> > @@ -397,13 +397,14 @@ a hung task is detected.
> > hung_task_panic
> > ===============
> >
> > -Controls the kernel's behavior when a hung task is detected.
> > +When set to a non-zero value, a kernel panic will be triggered if the
> > +number of hung tasks found during a single scan reaches this value.
> > This file shows up if ``CONFIG_DETECT_HUNG_TASK`` is enabled.
> >
> > -= =================================================
> > += =======================================================
> > 0 Continue operation. This is the default behavior.
> > -1 Panic immediately.
> > -= =================================================
> > +N Panic when N hung tasks are found during a single scan.
> > += =======================================================
> >
> >
> > hung_task_check_count
>
> […]
>
> > diff --git a/lib/Kconfig.debug b/lib/Kconfig.debug index
> > 3034e294..3976c90 100644
> > --- a/lib/Kconfig.debug
> > +++ b/lib/Kconfig.debug
> > @@ -1258,12 +1258,13 @@ config DEFAULT_HUNG_TASK_TIMEOUT
> > Keeping the default should be fine in most cases.
> >
> > config BOOTPARAM_HUNG_TASK_PANIC
> > - bool "Panic (Reboot) On Hung Tasks"
> > + int "Number of hung tasks to trigger kernel panic"
> > depends on DETECT_HUNG_TASK
> > + default 0
> > help
> > - Say Y here to enable the kernel to panic on "hung tasks",
> > - which are bugs that cause the kernel to leave a task stuck
> > - in uninterruptible "D" state.
> > + When set to a non-zero value, a kernel panic will be triggered
> > + if the number of hung tasks found during a single scan reaches
> > + this value.
> >
> > The panic can be used in combination with panic_timeout,
> > to cause the system to reboot automatically after a
> Why not leave the sentence about the uninterruptible "D" state in there?
>
This seem to say a kernel bug to cause hung task, but it maybe hardware failure(or virtio backend bug); so I do not keep it
> Also, it sounds like, some are actually using this in production. Maybe it
> should be moved out of `Kconfig.debug` too?
>
I think hung task panic is a useful feature, it should move out of Kconfig.debug
Thanks
-Li
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Paul
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-10-17 2:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-10-15 6:36 [PATCH][v4] hung_task: Panic when there are more than N hung tasks at the same time lirongqing
2025-10-16 5:07 ` Lance Yang
2025-10-16 5:57 ` [外部邮件] " Li,Rongqing
2025-10-16 20:50 ` Andrew Morton
2025-10-16 8:02 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2025-10-16 12:47 ` Paul Menzel
2025-10-17 2:09 ` Li,Rongqing [this message]
2025-10-17 5:17 ` Andrew Jeffery
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