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From: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
To: Fidelio LAWSON <lawson.fidelio@gmail.com>
Cc: Marek Vasut <marex@nabladev.com>,
	Woojung Huh <woojung.huh@microchip.com>,
	UNGLinuxDriver@microchip.com, Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@gmail.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	Marek Vasut <marex@denx.de>,
	Maxime Chevallier <maxime.chevallier@bootlin.com>,
	Simon Horman <horms@kernel.org>,
	Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>,
	Russell King <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Fidelio Lawson <fidelio.lawson@exotec.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/3] net: dsa: microchip: implement KSZ87xx Module 3 low-loss cable errata
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2026 16:54:16 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d584bd42-ee6d-465f-b4f7-2edc992368d6@lunn.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <264667a8-bbb2-44ac-84e7-df6c506ae6fa@gmail.com>

On Tue, Apr 14, 2026 at 03:48:33PM +0200, Fidelio LAWSON wrote:
> On 4/14/26 14:40, Andrew Lunn wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 14, 2026 at 01:05:49PM +0200, Marek Vasut wrote:
> > > On 4/14/26 11:12 AM, Fidelio Lawson wrote:
> > > > Implement the "Module 3: Equalizer fix for short cables" erratum from
> > > > Microchip document DS80000687C for KSZ87xx switches.
> > > > 
> > > > The issue affects short or low-loss cable links (e.g. CAT5e/CAT6),
> > > > where the PHY receiver equalizer may amplify high-amplitude signals
> > > > excessively, resulting in internal distortion and link establishment
> > > > failures.
> > > > 
> > > > KSZ87xx devices require a workaround for the Module 3 low-loss cable
> > > > condition, controlled through the switch TABLE_LINK_MD_V indirect
> > > > registers.
> > > > 
> > > > The affected registers are part of the switch address space and are not
> > > > directly accessible from the PHY driver. To keep the PHY-facing API
> > > > clean and avoid leaking switch-specific details, model this errata
> > > > control as vendor-specific Clause 22 PHY registers.
> > > > 
> > > > A vendor-specific Clause 22 PHY register is introduced as a mode
> > > > selector in PHY_REG_LOW_LOSS_CTRL, and ksz8_r_phy() / ksz8_w_phy()
> > > > translate accesses to these bits into the appropriate indirect
> > > > TABLE_LINK_MD_V accesses.
> > > > 
> > > > The control register defines the following modes:
> > > > 0: disabled (default behavior)
> > > > 1: EQ training workaround
> > > > 2: LPF 90 MHz
> > > > 3: LPF 62 MHz
> > > > 4: LPF 55 MHz
> > > > 5: LPF 44 MHz
> > > I may not fully understand this, but aren't the EQ and LPF settings
> > > orthogonal ?
> > 
> > What is the real life experience using this feature? Is it needed for
> > 1cm cables, but most > 1m cables are O.K with the defaults? Do we need
> > all these configuration options? How is a user supposed to discover
> > the different options? Can we simplify it down to a Boolean?
> We were seeing random link dropouts with the default settings, and since
> enabling the workaround 2, the link has remained stable and we have not
> observed any further issues.

So for you, a boolean which enables workaround 2 would be sufficient.

Marek, what is your experience?

       Andrew

  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-14 14:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-14  9:12 [PATCH v3 0/3] ksz87xx: add support for low-loss cable equalizer errata Fidelio Lawson
2026-04-14  9:12 ` [PATCH v3 1/3] net: dsa: microchip: implement KSZ87xx Module 3 low-loss cable errata Fidelio Lawson
2026-04-14 11:05   ` Marek Vasut
2026-04-14 11:59     ` Fidelio LAWSON
2026-04-14 12:40     ` Andrew Lunn
2026-04-14 13:48       ` Fidelio LAWSON
2026-04-14 14:54         ` Andrew Lunn [this message]
2026-04-14 15:50           ` Marek Vasut
2026-04-14 15:49       ` Marek Vasut
2026-04-16 11:53         ` Fidelio LAWSON
2026-04-16 12:25           ` Andrew Lunn
2026-04-16 14:25             ` Fidelio LAWSON
2026-04-16 14:30               ` Andrew Lunn
2026-04-16 15:05                 ` Marek Vasut
2026-04-14  9:12 ` [PATCH v3 2/3] net: ethtool: add KSZ87xx low-loss PHY tunable Fidelio Lawson
2026-04-14  9:12 ` [PATCH v3 3/3] net: phy: micrel: expose KSZ87xx low-loss erratum via " Fidelio Lawson

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