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From: Edward Cree <ecree.xilinx@gmail.com>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	"edward.cree" <edward.cree@amd.com>,
	linux-net-drivers@amd.com,
	"David S . Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>
Cc: Netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Martin Habets <habetsm.xilinx@gmail.com>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 net-next 1/3] sfc: use padding to fix alignment in loopback test
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2023 16:56:05 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d7925076-2747-821b-bc5b-4b18b85d2937@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d5d4ae40-047c-4913-9e6f-16093e150e40@app.fastmail.com>

On 14/08/2023 14:45, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> I think overall this is still a useful warning, in the sense that
> it can spot incorrect code elsewhere.

It's a valid concept for a warning, but it's badly implemented, because
 it fires on 'defining a type' rather than 'declaring an object'.
At no point is an object of the inner (anonymous) struct type declared
 (or a pointer to such constructed) without being (4n+2)-aligned, but
 the compiler isn't smart enough to figure that out.

And as Linus once said[1]:
    If you cannot distinguish it from incorrect uses, you shouldn't be
    warning the user, because the compiler obviously doesn't know
    enough to make a sufficiently educated guess.
(among other remarks on a theme of 'warnings with false positives are
 worse than useless'.  Especially when there's no way to shut them up
 without making the code objectively worse).

-e

[1]: https://yarchive.net/comp/linux/gcc.html#11

  reply	other threads:[~2023-08-14 15:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-23 18:38 [PATCH v2 net-next 0/3] sfc: fix unaligned access in loopback selftests edward.cree
2023-06-23 18:38 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 1/3] sfc: use padding to fix alignment in loopback test edward.cree
2023-08-12  8:23   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-08-14 10:06     ` Edward Cree
2023-08-14 13:45       ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-08-14 15:56         ` Edward Cree [this message]
2023-06-23 18:38 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 2/3] sfc: siena: " edward.cree
2023-06-23 18:38 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 3/3] sfc: falcon: " edward.cree
2023-06-26  9:50 ` [PATCH v2 net-next 0/3] sfc: fix unaligned access in loopback selftests patchwork-bot+netdevbpf

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