From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Christian Borntraeger Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] virtio/vringh: kill off ACCESS_ONCE() Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2016 17:49:45 +0100 Message-ID: References: <1479983114-17190-1-git-send-email-mark.rutland@arm.com> <20161124222357-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> <20161125112203.GA26611@leverpostej> <32dfca07-59f3-b75a-3154-cf6b6c8538f0@de.ibm.com> <20161125122356.GB26611@leverpostej> <20161125124044.GN3092@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> <20161125124404.GI3174@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> <20161125145512.GA4014@Boquns-MacBook-Pro.local> <20161125161004.GA30181@leverpostej> <20161125161709.GQ3092@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Davidlohr Bueso , KVM list , dbueso@suse.de, netdev , Boqun Feng , "Michael S. Tsirkin" , LKML , virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, Paul McKenney , Linus Torvalds , Dmitry Vyukov To: Peter Zijlstra , Mark Rutland Return-path: In-Reply-To: <20161125161709.GQ3092@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: virtualization-bounces@lists.linux-foundation.org Errors-To: virtualization-bounces@lists.linux-foundation.org List-Id: netdev.vger.kernel.org On 11/25/2016 05:17 PM, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 04:10:04PM +0000, Mark Rutland wrote: >> On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 04:21:39PM +0100, Dmitry Vyukov wrote: > >>> What are use cases for such primitive that won't be OK with "read once >>> _and_ atomically"? >> >> I have none to hand. > > Whatever triggers the __builtin_memcpy() paths, and even the size==8 > paths on 32bit. > > You could put a WARN in there to easily find them. There were several cases that I found during writing the *ONCE stuff. For example there are some 32bit ppc variants with 64bit PTEs. Some for others (I think sparc). And the mm/ code is perfectly fine with these PTE accesses being done NOT atomic. > > The advantage of introducing the SINGLE_{LOAD,STORE}() helpers is that > they compiletime validate this the size is 'right' and can runtime check > alignment constraints. > > IE, they are strictly stronger than {READ,WRITE}_ONCE(). >