From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
To: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rcu@vger.kernel.org,
lkmm@lists.linux.dev
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>,
Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>,
Neeraj Upadhyay <neeraj.upadhyay@kernel.org>,
Joel Fernandes <joelagnelf@nvidia.com>,
Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@gmail.com>,
Zqiang <qiang.zhang@linux.dev>, Breno Leitao <leitao@debian.org>,
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jhs@mojatatu.com, kernel-team@meta.com,
Erik Lundgren <elundgren@meta.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/8] Introduce simple hazard pointers for lockdep
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2025 08:25:52 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <d9c75e7c-48e2-4398-a830-9d41e7a74cc3@efficios.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250625031101.12555-1-boqun.feng@gmail.com>
On 2025-06-24 23:10, Boqun Feng wrote:
> Hi,
>
> This is the official first version of simple hazard pointers following
> the RFC:
>
> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20250414060055.341516-1-boqun.feng@gmail.com/
>
> I rebase it onto v6.16-rc3 and hope to get more feedback this time.
>
> Thanks a lot for Breno Leitao to try the RFC out and share the numbers.
>
> I did an extra comparison this time, between the shazptr solution and
> the synchronize_rcu_expedited() solution. In my test, during a 100 times
> "tc qdisc replace" run:
>
> * IPI rate with the shazptr solution: ~14 per second per core.
> * IPI rate with synchronize_rcu_expedited(): ~140 per second per core.
>
> (IPI results were from the 'CAL' line in /proc/interrupt)
>
> This shows that while both solutions have the similar speedup, shazptr
> solution avoids the introduce of high IPI rate compared to
> synchronize_rcu_expedited().
>
> Feedback is welcome and please let know if there is any concern or
> suggestion. Thanks!
Hi Boqun,
What is unclear to me is what is the delta wrt:
https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20241008135034.1982519-4-mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com/
and whether this helper against compiler optimizations would still be needed here:
https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20241008135034.1982519-2-mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com/
Thanks,
Mathieu
>
> Regards,
> Boqun
>
> --------------------------------------
> Please find the old performance below:
>
> On my system (a 96-cpu VMs), the results of:
>
> time /usr/sbin/tc qdisc replace dev eth0 root handle 0x1: mq
>
> are (with lockdep enabled):
>
> (without the patchset)
> real 0m1.039s
> user 0m0.001s
> sys 0m0.069s
>
> (with the patchset)
> real 0m0.053s
> user 0m0.000s
> sys 0m0.051s
>
> i.e. almost 20x speed-up.
>
> Other comparisons between RCU and shazptr, the rcuscale results (using
> default configuration from
> tools/testing/selftests/rcutorture/bin/kvm.sh):
>
> RCU:
>
> Average grace-period duration: 7470.02 microseconds
> Minimum grace-period duration: 3981.6
> 50th percentile grace-period duration: 6002.73
> 90th percentile grace-period duration: 7008.93
> 99th percentile grace-period duration: 10015
> Maximum grace-period duration: 142228
>
> shazptr:
>
> Average grace-period duration: 0.845825 microseconds
> Minimum grace-period duration: 0.199
> 50th percentile grace-period duration: 0.585
> 90th percentile grace-period duration: 1.656
> 99th percentile grace-period duration: 3.872
> Maximum grace-period duration: 3049.05
>
> shazptr (skip_synchronize_self_scan=1, i.e. always let scan kthread to
> wakeup):
>
> Average grace-period duration: 467.861 microseconds
> Minimum grace-period duration: 92.913
> 50th percentile grace-period duration: 440.691
> 90th percentile grace-period duration: 460.623
> 99th percentile grace-period duration: 650.068
> Maximum grace-period duration: 5775.46
>
> shazptr_wildcard (i.e. readers always use SHAZPTR_WILDCARD):
>
> Average grace-period duration: 599.569 microseconds
> Minimum grace-period duration: 1.432
> 50th percentile grace-period duration: 582.631
> 90th percentile grace-period duration: 781.704
> 99th percentile grace-period duration: 1160.26
> Maximum grace-period duration: 6727.53
>
> shazptr_wildcard (skip_synchronize_self_scan=1):
>
> Average grace-period duration: 460.466 microseconds
> Minimum grace-period duration: 303.546
> 50th percentile grace-period duration: 424.334
> 90th percentile grace-period duration: 482.637
> 99th percentile grace-period duration: 600.214
> Maximum grace-period duration: 4126.94
>
> Boqun Feng (8):
> Introduce simple hazard pointers
> shazptr: Add refscale test
> shazptr: Add refscale test for wildcard
> shazptr: Avoid synchronize_shaptr() busy waiting
> shazptr: Allow skip self scan in synchronize_shaptr()
> rcuscale: Allow rcu_scale_ops::get_gp_seq to be NULL
> rcuscale: Add tests for simple hazard pointers
> locking/lockdep: Use shazptr to protect the key hashlist
>
> include/linux/shazptr.h | 73 +++++++++
> kernel/locking/Makefile | 2 +-
> kernel/locking/lockdep.c | 11 +-
> kernel/locking/shazptr.c | 318 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> kernel/rcu/rcuscale.c | 60 +++++++-
> kernel/rcu/refscale.c | 77 ++++++++++
> 6 files changed, 534 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-)
> create mode 100644 include/linux/shazptr.h
> create mode 100644 kernel/locking/shazptr.c
>
--
Mathieu Desnoyers
EfficiOS Inc.
https://www.efficios.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-06-25 12:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-06-25 3:10 [PATCH 0/8] Introduce simple hazard pointers for lockdep Boqun Feng
2025-06-25 3:10 ` [PATCH 1/8] Introduce simple hazard pointers Boqun Feng
2025-06-25 10:00 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-25 14:25 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-06-25 15:05 ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-25 15:52 ` Waiman Long
2025-06-25 16:09 ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-25 17:47 ` Waiman Long
2025-06-25 3:10 ` [PATCH 2/8] shazptr: Add refscale test Boqun Feng
2025-06-25 10:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-25 3:10 ` [PATCH 3/8] shazptr: Add refscale test for wildcard Boqun Feng
2025-06-25 10:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-25 3:10 ` [PATCH 4/8] shazptr: Avoid synchronize_shaptr() busy waiting Boqun Feng
2025-06-25 11:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-25 11:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-25 13:56 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2025-06-25 15:24 ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-26 13:45 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2025-06-25 3:10 ` [PATCH 5/8] shazptr: Allow skip self scan in synchronize_shaptr() Boqun Feng
2025-06-25 3:10 ` [PATCH 6/8] rcuscale: Allow rcu_scale_ops::get_gp_seq to be NULL Boqun Feng
2025-06-25 3:11 ` [PATCH 7/8] rcuscale: Add tests for simple hazard pointers Boqun Feng
2025-06-25 3:11 ` [PATCH 8/8] locking/lockdep: Use shazptr to protect the key hashlist Boqun Feng
2025-06-25 11:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-25 14:18 ` Boqun Feng
2025-07-10 14:06 ` Breno Leitao
2025-07-11 2:31 ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-25 12:05 ` [PATCH 0/8] Introduce simple hazard pointers for lockdep Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-25 14:08 ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-26 10:16 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-26 13:45 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-06-26 15:47 ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-27 2:56 ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-06-25 12:25 ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2025-06-25 13:21 ` Boqun Feng
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