From: Martin KaFai Lau <martin.lau@linux.dev>
To: Michal Luczaj <mhal@rbox.co>
Cc: Jiayuan Chen <mrpre@163.com>,
John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
Jakub Sitnicki <jakub@cloudflare.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf v3 5/5] bpf, sockmap: Adapt for af_unix-specific lock
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2026 23:26:30 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <dd043c69-4d03-46fe-8325-8f97101435cf@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fa818820-c0c9-48dc-8ebc-661cb3349935@rbox.co>
On 3/15/26 4:58 PM, Michal Luczaj wrote:
>> Beside, from looking at the may_update_sockmap(), I don't know if it is
>> even doable (or useful) to bpf_map_update_elem(unix_sk) in
>> tc/flow_dissector/xdp. One possible path is the SOCK_FILTER when looking
>> at unix_dgram_sendmsg() => sk_filter(). It was not the original use case
>> when the bpf_map_update_elem(sockmap) support was added iirc.
>
> What about a situation when unix_sk is stored in a sockmap, then tc prog
> looks it up and invokes bpf_map_update_elem(unix_sk)? I'm not sure it's
> useful, but seems doable.
[ Sorry for the late reply ]
It is a bummer that the bpf_map_update_elem(unix_sk) path is possible
from tc :(
Then unix_state_lock() in its current form cannot be safely acquired in
sock_map_update_elem(). It is currently a spin_lock() instead of
spin_lock_bh().
>
>> The only path left is bpf_iter, which I believe was the primary use case
>> when adding bpf_map_update_elem(sockmap) support [1]. It would be nice
>> to avoid bh_lock_sock() when calling from all bpf_iter (tcp/udp/unix)
>> where lock_sock() has already been done. It is more for
>> reading-correctness though. This just came to my mind.
>> has_current_bpf_ctx() can be used to check this. sockopt_lock_sock() has
>> been using it to conditionally take lock_sock() or not.
>
> [ One clarification: bh_lock_sock() is a sock_map_update_elem() thing,
> which can only be called by a bpf prog. IOW, has_current_bpf_ctx() is
> always `true` in sock_map_update_elem(), right? ]
For all the bpf prog types allowed by may_update_sockmap() to do
bpf_map_update_elem(sockmap), only BPF_TRACE_ITER should have
has_current_bpf_ctx() == true. The tc prog (and others allowed in
may_update_sockmap()) will have has_current_bpf_ctx() == false when
calling sock_map_update_elem().
The tc case of bpf_map_update_elem(unix_sk) is unfortunate and requires
going back to the drawing board. I think checking unix_peer(sk) for NULL
without acquiring unix_state_lock() is needed for the
sock_map_update_elem() path, since changing unix_state_lock() for this
unknown use case seems overkill.
Whether sock_map_update_elem_"sys"() needs unix_state_lock() is up for
debate.
For bpf_iter_unix_seq_show(), one thought is to add unix_state_lock()
there before running the bpf iter prog. iiuc, it is what Kuniyuki has in
mind also to allow bpf iter prog having a stable view of unix_sock. This
could be a followup.
[fwiw, it was why I first thought of has_current_bpf_ctx() to avoid
sock_map_update_elem() taking unix_state_lock() again if
bpf_iter_unix_seq_show() acquires unix_state_lock() earlier. I later
concluded (but proved to be incorrect) that tc cannot call
bpf_map_update_elem(unix_sk).]
>
> Let me know if I'm correctly rephrasing your idea: assume all bpf-context
> callers hold the socket locked or keep it "stable" (meaning: "sk won't
> surprise sockmap update by some breaking state change coming from another
> thread"). As you said, most bpf iters already take the sock_lock(), and I
Right, all bpf iter (udp, tcp, unix) has acquired the lock_sock() before
running the bpf iter prog. afaik, the only exception is netlink bpf iter
but it cannot be added to sock_map afaik.
> have a patch that fixes sock_{map,hash}_seq_show(). Then we could try
> dropping that bh_lock_sock().
>
>> [ I would still keep patch 3 though. ]
>
> Right.
>
>> [1]: https://lore.kernel.org/bpf/20200821102948.21918-1-lmb@cloudflare.com/
>>
>>>
>>> In a parallel thread I've asked Kuniyuki if it might be better to
>>> completely drop patch 2/5, which would change how we interact with
>>> sock_map_close(). Lets see how it goes.
>>>
>>
>> If patch 2 is dropped, lock_sock() is always needed for unix_sk?
>
> For sock_map_update_elem_sys() I wanted to lock_sock()+unix_state_lock()
> following Kuniyuki's suggestion to keep locking pattern/order (that repeats
> when unix bpf iter prog invokes bpf_map_update_elem() ->
> sock_map_update_elem()). For sock_map_update_elem() not, we can't sleep there.
prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-03-26 6:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-03-05 23:30 [PATCH bpf v3 0/5] bpf, sockmap: Fix af_unix null-ptr-deref in proto update Michal Luczaj
2026-03-05 23:30 ` [PATCH bpf v3 1/5] bpf, sockmap: Annotate af_unix sock::sk_state data-races Michal Luczaj
2026-03-06 5:30 ` Kuniyuki Iwashima
2026-03-06 6:24 ` [PATCH bpf v3 1/5] bpf, sockmap: Annotate af_unix sock^sk_state data-races Jiayuan Chen
2026-03-18 17:05 ` [PATCH bpf v3 1/5] bpf, sockmap: Annotate af_unix sock::sk_state data-races Michal Luczaj
2026-03-05 23:30 ` [PATCH bpf v3 2/5] bpf, sockmap: Use sock_map_sk_{acquire,release}() where open-coded Michal Luczaj
2026-03-06 5:44 ` Kuniyuki Iwashima
2026-03-06 14:05 ` Michal Luczaj
2026-03-11 4:17 ` Kuniyuki Iwashima
2026-03-11 4:57 ` Kuniyuki Iwashima
2026-03-15 23:58 ` Michal Luczaj
2026-03-05 23:30 ` [PATCH bpf v3 3/5] bpf, sockmap: Fix af_unix iter deadlock Michal Luczaj
2026-03-06 5:47 ` Kuniyuki Iwashima
2026-03-06 6:04 ` Jiayuan Chen
2026-03-06 6:15 ` Jiayuan Chen
2026-03-06 14:06 ` Michal Luczaj
2026-03-06 14:31 ` Jiayuan Chen
2026-03-06 14:33 ` Jiayuan Chen
2026-03-05 23:30 ` [PATCH bpf v3 4/5] selftests/bpf: Extend bpf_iter_unix to attempt deadlocking Michal Luczaj
2026-03-06 14:34 ` Jiayuan Chen
2026-03-05 23:30 ` [PATCH bpf v3 5/5] bpf, sockmap: Adapt for af_unix-specific lock Michal Luczaj
2026-03-06 5:01 ` Jiayuan Chen
2026-03-06 14:09 ` Michal Luczaj
2026-03-10 22:20 ` Martin KaFai Lau
2026-03-15 23:58 ` Michal Luczaj
2026-03-26 6:26 ` Martin KaFai Lau [this message]
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