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From: Nicolai Buchwitz <nb@tipi-net.de>
To: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
Cc: Doug Berger <opendmb@gmail.com>,
	Florian Fainelli <florian.fainelli@broadcom.com>,
	Broadcom internal kernel review list
	<bcm-kernel-feedback-list@broadcom.com>,
	Andrew Lunn <andrew+netdev@lunn.ch>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@kernel.org>,
	Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Dave Stevenson <dave.stevenson@raspberrypi.com>,
	Justin Chen <justin.chen@broadcom.com>,
	Pierre-Marin Leclercq <pierremarinleclercq88@gmail.com>,
	Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v5 6/8] net: bcmgenet: pad transmit frames out of the packet ready window
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2026 08:29:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <dfbf28fcdac98687ab0bb49377657ed3@tipi-net.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20261016182508.1100f391@kernel.org>

On 17.10.2026 03:25, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Oct 2026 16:20:35 +0200 Nicolai Buchwitz wrote:
>> A frame that ends a few bytes past the transmit packet ready threshold
>> stops the transmitter as soon as a shorter frame follows. Tx DMA then
>> refuses to halt, so every later bcmgenet_init_dma() fails and the 
>> interface
>> cannot be opened again. IP fragmentation generates that pattern on 
>> every
>> datagram, full frames and a short tail.
> 
> This is really odd. Sounds like the IP can't really support high MTU
> properly. Should the user be somehow informed that the driver will
> append out-of-spec bytes to their frames or better still opt into
> this hack?

Fair, I don't like it either. In the last days I learned, that the bad
window is exactly one 64 byte DMA unit wide, so it smells like packet
ready and end of packet landing in the same transfer. Splitting the
frame over two descriptors probably avoids it and leaves the wire bytes 
alone.

In v6 I will do that and drop the padding.

Thanks,
Nicolai

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  reply	other threads:[~2026-10-17  6:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-10-13 14:20 [PATCH net-next v5 0/8] net: bcmgenet: support larger MTUs Nicolai Buchwitz
2026-10-13 14:20 ` [PATCH net-next v5 1/8] net: bcmgenet: ring the doorbell when the last frame of a batch is dropped Nicolai Buchwitz
2026-10-13 14:20 ` [PATCH net-next v5 2/8] net: bcmgenet: let the caller decide whether to start the PHY Nicolai Buchwitz
2026-10-13 14:20 ` [PATCH net-next v5 3/8] net: bcmgenet: allow a continuation descriptor without the alignment pad Nicolai Buchwitz
2026-10-13 14:20 ` [PATCH net-next v5 4/8] net: bcmgenet: rename ENET_MAX_MTU_SIZE to ENET_MAX_FRAME_LEN Nicolai Buchwitz
2026-10-13 14:20 ` [PATCH net-next v5 5/8] net: bcmgenet: derive the receive buffer length from the MTU Nicolai Buchwitz
2026-10-13 14:20 ` [PATCH net-next v5 6/8] net: bcmgenet: pad transmit frames out of the packet ready window Nicolai Buchwitz
2026-10-14 14:22   ` netdev-bot+sashiko
2026-10-15  8:48     ` Nicolai Buchwitz
2026-10-17  1:25   ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-10-17  6:29     ` Nicolai Buchwitz [this message]
2026-10-13 14:20 ` [PATCH net-next v5 7/8] net: bcmgenet: allow the MTU to be changed Nicolai Buchwitz
2026-10-14 14:22   ` netdev-bot+sashiko
2026-10-15  8:55     ` Nicolai Buchwitz
2026-10-17  1:24   ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-10-17  6:26     ` Nicolai Buchwitz
2026-10-13 14:20 ` [PATCH net-next v5 8/8] net: bcmgenet: reassemble jumbo frames from status block fragments Nicolai Buchwitz
2026-10-14 14:22   ` netdev-bot+sashiko
2026-10-15  8:56     ` Nicolai Buchwitz

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