From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp-in-1.gedalya.net (mail.gedalya.net [170.39.119.235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D0D301E4AF for ; Wed, 22 May 2024 23:02:40 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=170.39.119.235 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1716418962; cv=none; b=piTNdbXSYIaIy4U08mTatvBUy3vpM/x83N9axepEHCnJp7Iw9A/HoWb0yzZ7ym3c6x+bMDYPk6xFdcxXyfi5boIEJlzYEtwC8hzQJfeuYjiVPEJsLeBW1AcGJHKbOUEphg52sdCOm0X/Wvk2yXpPoAcIlTBDxnGq1o1/KGId7Mc= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1716418962; c=relaxed/simple; bh=1PLwRNGUwi1sVzI0YA6hsn7ehjvr7ZDNrwLUePNPges=; h=Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Subject:To:Cc:References:From: In-Reply-To:Content-Type; b=WGnFSzwMffS1VibwPXhhjRXGf505t1qKbcmUk0cLU5/tZVt8oBKmgxH/SGfIhGnMawg816ABPFBopcmTKfm4dG7irgdN+ID3eJ6vrA02/XWMQQs6aA8rPyQ3qmrS4MKAeLYt8X43ldxBKovmX7kqdn6Be6o8jn7SQyFTxxG/cWE= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=quarantine dis=none) header.from=gedalya.net; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=gedalya.net; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gedalya.net header.i=@gedalya.net header.b=QAGOE1q6; arc=none smtp.client-ip=170.39.119.235 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=quarantine dis=none) header.from=gedalya.net Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=gedalya.net Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gedalya.net header.i=@gedalya.net header.b="QAGOE1q6" DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gedalya.net ; s=rsa1; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:From: References:Cc:To:Subject:MIME-Version:Date:Message-ID:Sender:Reply-To: Content-ID:Content-Description; bh=1PLwRNGUwi1sVzI0YA6hsn7ehjvr7ZDNrwLUePNPges=; b=QAGOE1q6XYKvkQKfsHV4XkXLMW VH1poTBRxFNEJPWCDtutuQQ8BV0KFcGGYSPY8awfi3q3OqvqbuNHn6bJcuQgQI+WyFPqqy1EOY6Yi MMpSGJqyFaGk3VWTy/bNN5fwTeRjRTFE87j6CaVIFKqWND7O+lL6PtNpA9V59S3vBYlYhsNPUgbFl NZ5R34C2ClycLKdldiOw9rp/Rn6SYTQBRsk270GPf+19lGBkkw0kCYF7x0qd3Mbg3yS94AYCpPhm/ T8EEn6bqGiBZoj8hQIpSYg26P5wW3esnMEraCndweUGgFQySnZbuIrOuTYGxcAkakT7slAtAefJB0 B//9WDtg==; Received: from [192.168.9.10] by smtp-in-1.gedalya.net with esmtpsa (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1s9uyk-000ezQ-1K; Wed, 22 May 2024 23:02:38 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 May 2024 07:02:35 +0800 Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: netdev@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: [PATCH] [resend] color: default to dark background To: Stephen Hemminger Cc: Dragan Simic , netdev@vger.kernel.org References: <20240522135721.7da9b30c@hermes.local> <67841f35-a2bb-49a5-becd-db2defe4e4fa@gedalya.net> <2866a9935b3fa3eafe51625b5bdfaa30@manjaro.org> <20240522143354.0214e054@hermes.local> <5b8dfe40-e72e-4310-85b5-aa607bad1638@gedalya.net> <20240522155234.6180d92d@hermes.local> Content-Language: en-US From: Gedalya In-Reply-To: <20240522155234.6180d92d@hermes.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 5/23/24 6:52 AM, Stephen Hemminger wrote: > Overall, I am concerned that changing this will upset existing users. > Not that it is impossible, just need more consensus and testing. Makes sense. It seems that possible negative impact would be when the following are all true: 1. Users actually using color. For debian and derivatives, up until now this would have been people enabling color themselves. Debian's recent enabling color by default was the impetus for this issue. 2. Using light background. 3. Not using COLORFGBG, or setting it incorrectly.