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On 06/10/2025 19:11, Linus Torvalds wrote: > On Mon, 6 Oct 2025 at 09:32, Vegard Nossum wrote: >> >> Okay, so I get that we don't like fips=1 around here (I'm not a >> particularly big fan myself), but what's with the snark? fips=1 exists >> in mainline and obviously has users. I'm just trying to make sure it >> remains useful and usable. > > It literally caused non-bootable machines because of that allegedly > "remains useful and usable" because it changed something that never > failed to failing. That's how this thread started. > > So that's why the snark. I think you are deluding yourself and others > if you call that "useful and usable". Yes, thank you, I've already acknowledged that my patch caused boot failures and I apologize for that unintentional breakage. Why does this mean we should throw fips=1 in the bin, though? That's a total non sequitur. The fact is that fips=1 is not useful if it doesn't actually result something that complies with the standard; the only purpose of fips=1 is to allow the kernel to be used and certified as a FIPS module. But as SHA-1 is still allowed for now, please go ahead and revert my patch, it's commit 9d50a25eeb05c. Vegard