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From: Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>
To: Cong Wang <xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com>
Cc: Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>,
	Linux Kernel Network Developers <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jamal Hadi Salim <jhs@mojatatu.com>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	Marcelo Ricardo Leitner <marcelo.leitner@gmail.com>,
	Eyal Birger <eyal.birger@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 3/4] net/tc: introduce TC_ACT_MIRRED.
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2018 08:48:19 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e214a6ee44d593356b78f14b1de48ac1771ca716.camel@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAM_iQpXEXkRdZAAne43FbnveqdFTu7ZZLXNMHLVE=JvgDYbY2A@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

On Mon, 2018-07-23 at 14:12 -0700, Cong Wang wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 2:54 AM Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com> wrote:
> > Note this is what already happens with TC_ACT_REDIRECT: currently the
> > user space uses it freely, even if only {cls,act}_bpf can return such
> > value in a meaningful way, and only from the ingress and the egress
> > hooks.
>
> Yes, my question is why do we give user such a freedom?
> 
> In other words, what do you want users to choose here? To scrub or not
> to scrub? To clone or not to clone?
> 
> From my understanding of your whole patchset, your goal is to get rid
> of clone, and users definitely don't care about clone or not clone for
> redirections, this is why I insist it doesn't need to be visible to user.

Thank you for your kind reply!

No, my intention is not to expose to the user-space another option. I
added the  additional tcfa_action value in response to concerns exposed
vs the v1 version of this series (it changed the act_mirred behaviour
and possibly broke some use-case).

When assembling the v2 I did not implemented the (deserved) isolation
vs user-space because of the already existing TC_ACT_REDIRECT: its
current implementation fooled me to think such considerations were not
relevant.

> If your goal is not just skipping clone, but also, let's say, scrub or not
> scrub, then it should be visible to users. However, I don't see why
> users care about scrub or not, they have to understand what scrub
> is at least, it is a purely kernel-internal behavior.

I agree to hide TC_ACT_REINJECT and any choice about scrubbing to user-
space, as per the code chunk I  posted before. I'll send a v3
implementing such schema.

Cheers,

Paolo

  reply	other threads:[~2018-07-24  7:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-07-19 13:02 [PATCH net-next 0/4] TC: refactor act_mirred packets re-injection Paolo Abeni
2018-07-19 13:02 ` [PATCH net-next 1/4] tc/act: user space can't use TC_ACT_REDIRECT directly Paolo Abeni
2018-07-19 13:02 ` [PATCH net-next 2/4] tc/act: remove unneeded RCU lock in action callback Paolo Abeni
2018-07-19 13:02 ` [PATCH net-next 3/4] net/tc: introduce TC_ACT_MIRRED Paolo Abeni
2018-07-19 18:07   ` Cong Wang
2018-07-20  9:54     ` Paolo Abeni
2018-07-23 21:12       ` Cong Wang
2018-07-24  6:48         ` Paolo Abeni [this message]
2018-07-19 18:56   ` Jiri Pirko
2018-07-19 13:02 ` [PATCH net-next 4/4] act_mirred: use ACT_MIRRED when possible Paolo Abeni
2018-07-21 23:29   ` David Miller
2018-07-22 14:32     ` Paolo Abeni

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