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From: Matthieu Baerts <matttbe@kernel.org>
To: Stefan Metzmacher <metze@samba.org>,
	Xin Long <lucien.xin@gmail.com>,
	network dev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Cc: davem@davemloft.net, kuba@kernel.org,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>, Simon Horman <horms@kernel.org>,
	Moritz Buhl <mbuhl@openbsd.org>,
	Tyler Fanelli <tfanelli@redhat.com>,
	Pengtao He <hepengtao@xiaomi.com>,
	linux-cifs@vger.kernel.org, Steve French <smfrench@gmail.com>,
	Namjae Jeon <linkinjeon@kernel.org>,
	Paulo Alcantara <pc@manguebit.com>, Tom Talpey <tom@talpey.com>,
	kernel-tls-handshake@lists.linux.dev,
	Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>,
	Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>,
	Benjamin Coddington <bcodding@redhat.com>,
	Steve Dickson <steved@redhat.com>, Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>,
	Alexander Aring <aahringo@redhat.com>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Cong Wang <xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com>,
	"D . Wythe" <alibuda@linux.alibaba.com>,
	Jason Baron <jbaron@akamai.com>,
	illiliti <illiliti@protonmail.com>,
	Sabrina Dubroca <sd@queasysnail.net>,
	Marcelo Ricardo Leitner <marcelo.leitner@gmail.com>,
	Daniel Stenberg <daniel@haxx.se>,
	Andy Gospodarek <andrew.gospodarek@broadcom.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2 01/15] net: define IPPROTO_QUIC and SOL_QUIC constants
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2025 18:20:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e4167710-3667-497b-b12e-096fd06217d9@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5d5ac074-1790-410e-acf9-0e559cb7eacb@samba.org>

Hi Stefan, Xin,

On 18/08/2025 16:31, Stefan Metzmacher wrote:
> Hi,
> 
>> diff --git a/include/linux/socket.h b/include/linux/socket.h
>> index 3b262487ec06..a7c05b064583 100644
>> --- a/include/linux/socket.h
>> +++ b/include/linux/socket.h
>> @@ -386,6 +386,7 @@ struct ucred {
>>   #define SOL_MCTP    285
>>   #define SOL_SMC        286
>>   #define SOL_VSOCK    287
>> +#define SOL_QUIC    288
>>     /* IPX options */
>>   #define IPX_TYPE    1
>> diff --git a/include/uapi/linux/in.h b/include/uapi/linux/in.h
>> index ced0fc3c3aa5..34becd90d3a6 100644
>> --- a/include/uapi/linux/in.h
>> +++ b/include/uapi/linux/in.h
>> @@ -85,6 +85,8 @@ enum {
>>   #define IPPROTO_RAW        IPPROTO_RAW
>>     IPPROTO_SMC = 256,        /* Shared Memory Communications        */
>>   #define IPPROTO_SMC        IPPROTO_SMC
>> +  IPPROTO_QUIC = 261,        /* A UDP-Based Multiplexed and Secure
>> Transport    */
>> +#define IPPROTO_QUIC        IPPROTO_QUIC
>>     IPPROTO_MPTCP = 262,        /* Multipath TCP connection        */
>>   #define IPPROTO_MPTCP        IPPROTO_MPTCP
>>     IPPROTO_MAX
> 
> Can these constants be accepted, soon?
> 
> Samba 4.23.0 to be released early September will ship userspace code to
> use them. It would be good to have them correct when kernel's start to
> support this...
> 
> It would also mean less risk for conflicting projects with the need for
> such numbers.
> 
> I think it's useful to use a value lower than IPPROTO_MAX, because it means
> the kernel module can also be build against older kernels as out of tree
> module
> and still it would be transparent for userspace consumers like samba.
> There are hardcoded checks for IPPROTO_MAX in inet_create, inet6_create,
> inet_diag_register
> and the value of IPPROTO_MAX is 263 starting with commit
> d25a92ccae6bed02327b63d138e12e7806830f78 in 6.11.

I would also recommend not changing IPPROTO_MAX here. When IPPROTO_MAX
got increased to 263, this caused some (small) small issues because it
was hardcoded in some userspace code if I remember well.

It is unclear why IPPROTO_QUIC is using 261 and not 257, but it should
not make any differences I suppose.

Note that for MPTCP, we picked 262, just in case the protocol number was
limited to 8 bits, to fallback to IPPROTO_TCP: 262 & 0xFF = 6. At that
time, we thought it was important, because we were the first ones to use
a value higher than U8_MAX. At the end, it is good for new protocols,
not to increase IPPROTO_MAX each time :)

(@Xin: BTW, thank you for working on this!)

Cheers,
Matt
-- 
Sponsored by the NGI0 Core fund.


  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-18 16:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-18 14:04 [PATCH net-next v2 00/15] net: introduce QUIC infrastructure and core subcomponents Xin Long
2025-08-18 14:04 ` [PATCH net-next v2 01/15] net: define IPPROTO_QUIC and SOL_QUIC constants Xin Long
2025-08-18 14:31   ` Stefan Metzmacher
2025-08-18 16:20     ` Matthieu Baerts [this message]
2025-08-18 18:37       ` Xin Long
2025-08-19  8:10     ` Namjae Jeon
2025-08-21  8:24       ` Stefan Metzmacher
2025-08-18 14:04 ` [PATCH net-next v2 02/15] net: build socket infrastructure for QUIC protocol Xin Long
2025-08-21 11:17   ` Paolo Abeni
2025-08-23 18:38     ` Xin Long
2025-08-18 14:04 ` [PATCH net-next v2 03/15] quic: provide common utilities and data structures Xin Long
2025-08-21 12:58   ` Paolo Abeni
2025-08-23 18:15     ` Xin Long
2025-08-18 14:04 ` [PATCH net-next v2 04/15] quic: provide family ops for address and protocol Xin Long
2025-08-21 13:17   ` Paolo Abeni
2025-08-23 17:22     ` Xin Long
2025-08-18 14:04 ` [PATCH net-next v2 05/15] quic: provide quic.h header files for kernel and userspace Xin Long
2025-08-18 14:04 ` [PATCH net-next v2 06/15] quic: add stream management Xin Long
2025-08-21 13:43   ` Paolo Abeni
2025-08-23 17:14     ` Xin Long
2025-08-18 14:04 ` [PATCH net-next v2 07/15] quic: add connection id management Xin Long
2025-08-21 13:55   ` Paolo Abeni
2025-08-23 15:57     ` Xin Long
2025-08-22 17:10   ` Jason Baron
2025-08-23 16:15     ` Xin Long
2025-08-18 14:04 ` [PATCH net-next v2 08/15] quic: add path management Xin Long
2025-08-21 14:18   ` Paolo Abeni
2025-08-23 15:40     ` Xin Long
2025-08-18 14:04 ` [PATCH net-next v2 09/15] quic: add congestion control Xin Long
2025-08-18 14:04 ` [PATCH net-next v2 10/15] quic: add packet number space Xin Long
2025-08-18 14:04 ` [PATCH net-next v2 11/15] quic: add crypto key derivation and installation Xin Long
2025-08-18 14:04 ` [PATCH net-next v2 12/15] quic: add crypto packet encryption and decryption Xin Long
2025-08-18 14:04 ` [PATCH net-next v2 13/15] quic: add timer management Xin Long
2025-08-18 14:04 ` [PATCH net-next v2 14/15] quic: add frame encoder and decoder base Xin Long
2025-08-18 14:04 ` [PATCH net-next v2 15/15] quic: add packet builder and parser base Xin Long
2025-08-23 15:20 ` [PATCH net-next v2 00/15] net: introduce QUIC infrastructure and core subcomponents John Ericson
2025-08-24 17:57   ` Xin Long
2025-08-26 21:48     ` Xin Long

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