From: "John Ericson" <mail@johnericson.me>
To: "Günther Noack" <gnoack3000@gmail.com>
Cc: "David Laight" <david.laight.linux@gmail.com>,
"Kuniyuki Iwashima" <kuniyu@google.com>,
"David S . Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
"Eric Dumazet" <edumazet@google.com>,
"Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
"Paolo Abeni" <pabeni@redhat.com>,
"Cong Wang" <cwang@multikernel.io>,
"Simon Horman" <horms@kernel.org>,
"Christian Brauner" <brauner@kernel.org>,
"David Rheinsberg" <david@readahead.eu>,
"Andy Lutomirski" <luto@kernel.org>,
"Sergei Zimmerman" <sergei@zimmerman.foo>,
"network dev" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
"Mickaël Salaün" <mic@digikod.net>,
"Günther Noack" <gnoack@google.com>,
"Paul Moore" <paul@paul-moore.com>,
linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: unix_stream_connect and socket address resolution
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2026 12:02:24 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <e4adebd8-181a-47b7-b82b-b6d9baa6b203@app.fastmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260722.bfca37efd700@gnoack.org>
Thanks Günther!
This example makes sense to me. The behavior still feels a little odd to
me, but I can understand the practical benefit of what you describe, and
also why changing it would definitely cause breakage.
I have one addendum to ask then which is: what if before the loop we
pre-resolve the parent directory as a concrete `struct path`, and then
on each iteration of the loop resolve only the final path component to
the socket itself? (That is a single-component lookup relative to the
pre-resolved parent, to be clear.)
Per your example, a legitimate server restart recreates the socket inode
in the same directory, so this still picks up the new socket and
reconnects, while avoiding the effect where a concurrent
ancestor-directory rename causes a wildly different socket to be
resolved. Hopefully this preserves the intended use-case.
Note that this does mean recreating the parent directory itself at the
same path would no longer be followed, and a rename/unlink of the pinned
parent would cause the lookup to fail rather than resolve elsewhere.
That seems like the intended, safer direction to me, but flagging it as
a deliberate semantic change rather than an accident.
If this sounds like an acceptable middle-ground to everyone, I'd be happy to implement it.
Cheers,
John
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-07-22 16:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-07-03 7:39 [RFC PATCH 0/3] coredump, net: fix layer violation with direct connection John Ericson
2026-07-03 7:39 ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] af_unix: factor out unix_lookup_bsd_path() John Ericson
2026-07-03 7:39 ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] af_unix: factor out kernel_unix_connect_direct() John Ericson
2026-07-18 19:55 ` unix_stream_connect and socket address resolution John Ericson
2026-07-18 20:58 ` David Laight
2026-07-19 15:37 ` John Ericson
2026-07-21 20:37 ` John Ericson
2026-07-22 7:25 ` Günther Noack
2026-07-22 16:02 ` John Ericson [this message]
2026-07-22 10:05 ` David Laight
2026-07-03 7:39 ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] coredump, net: remove `SOCK_COREDUMP` John Ericson
2026-07-03 8:11 ` Christian Brauner
2026-07-03 9:08 ` John Ericson
2026-07-03 9:31 ` Christian Brauner
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