From: Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>
To: John Ousterhout <ouster@cs.stanford.edu>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, edumazet@google.com, horms@kernel.org,
kuba@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v6 08/12] net: homa: create homa_incoming.c
Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2025 10:17:30 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <e7cdcca6-d0b2-4b59-a2ef-17834a8ffca3@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGXJAmxLqnjnWr8sjooJRRyQ2-5BqPCQL8gnn0gzYoZ0MMoBSw@mail.gmail.com>
On 1/31/25 11:35 PM, John Ousterhout wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 1:57 AM Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com> wrote:
>> On 1/30/25 1:48 AM, John Ousterhout wrote:
>>> On Mon, Jan 27, 2025 at 2:19 AM Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 1/15/25 7:59 PM, John Ousterhout wrote:
>>>>> + /* Each iteration through the following loop processes one
>> packet. */
>>>>> + for (; skb; skb = next) {
>>>>> + h = (struct homa_data_hdr *)skb->data;
>>>>> + next = skb->next;
>>>>> +
>>>>> + /* Relinquish the RPC lock temporarily if it's needed
>>>>> + * elsewhere.
>>>>> + */
>>>>> + if (rpc) {
>>>>> + int flags = atomic_read(&rpc->flags);
>>>>> +
>>>>> + if (flags & APP_NEEDS_LOCK) {
>>>>> + homa_rpc_unlock(rpc);
>>>>> + homa_spin(200);
>>>>
>>>> Why spinning on the current CPU here? This is completely unexpected, and
>>>> usually tolerated only to deal with H/W imposed delay while programming
>>>> some device registers.
>>>
>>> This is done to pass the RPC lock off to another thread (the
>>> application); the spin is there to allow the other thread to acquire
>>> the lock before this thread tries to acquire it again (almost
>>> immediately). There's no performance impact from the spin because this
>>> thread is going to turn around and try to acquire the RPC lock again
>>> (at which point it will spin until the other thread releases the
>>> lock). Thus it's either spin here or spin there. I've added a comment
>>> to explain this.
>>
>> What if another process is spinning on the RPC lock without setting
>> APP_NEEDS_LOCK? AFAICS incoming packets targeting the same RPC could
>> land on different RX queues.
>>
>
> If that happens then it could grab the lock instead of the desired
> application, which would defeat the performance optimization and delay the
> application a bit. This would be no worse than if the APP_NEEDS_LOCK
> mechanism were not present.
Then I suggest using plain unlock/lock() with no additional spinning in
between.
/P
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-02-03 9:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-01-15 18:59 [PATCH net-next v6 00/12] Begin upstreaming Homa transport protocol John Ousterhout
2025-01-15 18:59 ` [PATCH net-next v6 01/12] net: homa: define user-visible API for Homa John Ousterhout
2025-01-15 18:59 ` [PATCH net-next v6 02/12] net: homa: create homa_wire.h John Ousterhout
2025-01-15 18:59 ` [PATCH net-next v6 03/12] net: homa: create shared Homa header files John Ousterhout
2025-01-23 11:01 ` Paolo Abeni
2025-01-24 21:21 ` John Ousterhout
2025-01-27 9:05 ` Paolo Abeni
2025-01-27 17:04 ` John Ousterhout
2025-01-15 18:59 ` [PATCH net-next v6 04/12] net: homa: create homa_pool.h and homa_pool.c John Ousterhout
2025-01-23 12:06 ` Paolo Abeni
2025-01-24 23:53 ` John Ousterhout
2025-01-25 0:46 ` Andrew Lunn
2025-01-26 5:33 ` John Ousterhout
2025-01-27 9:41 ` Paolo Abeni
2025-01-27 17:34 ` John Ousterhout
2025-01-27 18:28 ` Paolo Abeni
2025-01-27 19:12 ` John Ousterhout
2025-01-28 8:27 ` Paolo Abeni
2025-01-15 18:59 ` [PATCH net-next v6 05/12] net: homa: create homa_rpc.h and homa_rpc.c John Ousterhout
2025-01-23 14:29 ` Paolo Abeni
2025-01-27 5:22 ` John Ousterhout
2025-01-27 10:01 ` Paolo Abeni
2025-01-27 18:03 ` John Ousterhout
2025-01-28 8:19 ` Paolo Abeni
2025-01-29 1:23 ` John Ousterhout
[not found] ` <13345e2a-849d-4bd8-a95e-9cd7f287c7df@redhat.com>
2025-01-29 16:43 ` John Ousterhout
2025-01-29 16:49 ` Eric Dumazet
2025-01-29 16:54 ` John Ousterhout
2025-01-29 17:04 ` Eric Dumazet
2025-01-29 20:27 ` John Ousterhout
2025-01-29 20:40 ` Eric Dumazet
2025-01-29 21:08 ` John Ousterhout
2025-01-15 18:59 ` [PATCH net-next v6 06/12] net: homa: create homa_peer.h and homa_peer.c John Ousterhout
2025-01-23 17:45 ` Paolo Abeni
2025-01-28 0:06 ` John Ousterhout
2025-01-28 0:32 ` Jason Xing
2025-01-15 18:59 ` [PATCH net-next v6 07/12] net: homa: create homa_sock.h and homa_sock.c John Ousterhout
2025-01-23 19:01 ` Paolo Abeni
2025-01-28 0:40 ` John Ousterhout
2025-01-28 4:26 ` John Ousterhout
2025-01-28 15:10 ` Eric Dumazet
2025-01-28 17:04 ` John Ousterhout
2025-01-24 7:33 ` Paolo Abeni
2025-01-15 18:59 ` [PATCH net-next v6 08/12] net: homa: create homa_incoming.c John Ousterhout
2025-01-24 8:31 ` Paolo Abeni
2025-01-30 0:41 ` John Ousterhout
[not found] ` <991b5ad9-57cf-4e1d-8e01-9d0639fa4e49@redhat.com>
2025-01-31 22:48 ` John Ousterhout
2025-02-03 9:12 ` Paolo Abeni
2025-02-03 23:33 ` John Ousterhout
2025-02-04 8:50 ` Paolo Abeni
2025-02-04 16:30 ` John Ousterhout
2025-02-04 19:41 ` Andrew Lunn
2025-02-04 21:20 ` John Ousterhout
2025-01-27 10:19 ` Paolo Abeni
2025-01-30 0:48 ` John Ousterhout
2025-01-30 9:57 ` Paolo Abeni
2025-01-31 22:51 ` John Ousterhout
[not found] ` <CAGXJAmxLqnjnWr8sjooJRRyQ2-5BqPCQL8gnn0gzYoZ0MMoBSw@mail.gmail.com>
2025-02-03 9:17 ` Paolo Abeni [this message]
2025-02-03 17:33 ` John Ousterhout
2025-02-03 17:58 ` Andrew Lunn
2025-02-05 23:56 ` John Ousterhout
2025-02-06 1:49 ` Andrew Lunn
2025-01-15 18:59 ` [PATCH net-next v6 09/12] net: homa: create homa_outgoing.c John Ousterhout
2025-01-15 18:59 ` [PATCH net-next v6 10/12] net: homa: create homa_timer.c John Ousterhout
2025-01-15 18:59 ` [PATCH net-next v6 11/12] net: homa: create homa_plumbing.c and homa_utils.c John Ousterhout
2025-01-15 18:59 ` [PATCH net-next v6 12/12] net: homa: create Makefile and Kconfig John Ousterhout
2025-01-24 8:55 ` [PATCH net-next v6 00/12] Begin upstreaming Homa transport protocol Paolo Abeni
2025-02-10 19:19 ` John Ousterhout
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