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From: Ferenc Fejes <primalgamer@gmail.com>
To: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>, Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>
Cc: Vladimir Oltean <vladimir.oltean@nxp.com>,
	Steve Williams <steve.williams@getcruise.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, vinicius.gomes@intel.com,
	xiaoliang.yang_1@nxp.com
Subject: Re: [EXT] Re: [PATCH net-next] net/hanic: Add the hanic network interface for high availability links
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2023 12:03:08 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e928f31c8a2e6775c3f64ce20365998ab00b22ed.camel@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y344ShAVEjFtKyXA@lunn.ch>

Hi!

On Wed, 2022-11-23 at 16:12 +0100, Andrew Lunn wrote:
> > I guess for the same reason other soft netdevice driver are in the
> > kernel. You can do bridge, bond, etc in a silimilar way you
> > described
> > here...
> 
> Performance of tun/tap is also not great.

Yes, but mostly because of the throughput. It also that severe the
latency issue too?

FRER tipically used in TSN use-cases, where 10 and 100 Mbps covers like
90% what you need. 1Gbps at max. Yes I agree that the concept can be
useful everywhere when redundancy over multiple hops necessary but I
cant see other than industrial use-cases (like datacenter or so)

> 
> Doing this in the kernel does seem correct. But we need one
> implementation which can be expanded over time to cover everything in
> the standard. From what has been said so far, it seems like this
> implementation focuses on leaf nodes, because that is what the author
> of the code is interested in. But is the design generic enough it can
> be expanded to cover everything else? I'm not saying it actually
> needs
> to implement it now, we just need to have a vision of how it can be
> extended to implement the rest. What we don't want is one way for
> leaf
> nodes, and a completely different code base for other nodes.
> 
>        Andrew

I'm afraid not generic enough.
There are MPLS encapsulated DetNet flows as well (PREOF) which is
different than .1CB but replication/elimination concept is the same.
Also it would be nice to have to store the R-tag seq as a metadata and
replicate it in hybrid L2/L3 fashion (TSN and DetNet member streams)

Best,
Ferenc

  reply	other threads:[~2023-02-21 11:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-18 23:26 [PATCH net-next] net/hanic: Add the hanic network interface for high availability links Steve Williams
2022-11-22  0:40 ` Andrew Lunn
2022-11-22  3:58 ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-11-22 11:34   ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-22 19:54     ` Andrew Lunn
2022-11-22 21:01       ` [EXT] " Steve Williams
2022-11-22 20:51     ` Steve Williams
2022-11-23 14:26       ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-23 14:52         ` Jiri Pirko
2022-11-23 15:12           ` Andrew Lunn
2023-02-21 11:03             ` Ferenc Fejes [this message]
2022-11-23 15:25           ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-23 16:36             ` Jiri Pirko
2022-11-29 22:38               ` Steve Williams
2022-11-22 12:49 ` Jiri Pirko
2022-11-22 13:55   ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-22 14:06     ` Jiri Pirko
2022-11-22 20:57     ` [EXT] " Steve Williams
2022-11-23 12:46       ` Jiri Pirko
2023-02-21 10:56 ` Ferenc Fejes

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