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From: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
To: Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@gmail.com>, Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>
Cc: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>,
	netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Paul Gortmaker <paul.gortmaker@windriver.com>,
	Jiri Benc <jbenc@redhat.com>, Or Gerlitz <ogerlitz@mellanox.com>,
	Cong Wang <xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com>,
	Jamal Hadi Salim <jhs@mojatatu.com>, Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Correct usage of dev_base_lock in 2020
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2020 21:18:01 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <edd71200-88c0-9de4-1ad2-3a4af3d407df@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201130194617.kzfltaqccbbfq6jr@skbuf>



On 11/30/20 8:46 PM, Vladimir Oltean wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 08:22:01PM +0100, Eric Dumazet wrote:
>> And ?
>>
>> A bonding device can absolutely maintain a private list, ready for
>> bonding ndo_get_stats() use, regardless
>> of register/unregister logic.
>>
>> bond_for_each_slave() is simply a macro, you can replace it by something else.
> 
> Also, coming to take the comment at face value.
> Can it really? How? Freeing a net_device at unregister time happens
> after an RCU grace period.

Except that the device would have to be removed from the bonding list
before the RCU grace period starts.

This removal would acquire the bonding ->stats_mutex in order to change the list.

 So whatever the bonding driver does to keep a
> private list of slave devices, those pointers need to be under RCU
> protection.


Not at all, if this new list is _only_ used from process context,
and protected by a per-device mutex.

I am not speaking of existing lists that _possibly_ are
used from IRQ context, thus are using RCU.


 And that doesn't help with the sleepable context that we're
> looking for.
>

Again, RCU would not be used at all, since you want ndo_get_stats64()
being called in process context (sleepable context)

And this should be solved without expanding RTNL usage.
(We do not want to block RTNL for ~10ms just because a device driver has to sleep
while a firmware request is processed)


  reply	other threads:[~2020-11-30 20:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20201129182435.jgqfjbekqmmtaief@skbuf>
2020-11-29 20:58 ` Correct usage of dev_base_lock in 2020 Vladimir Oltean
2020-11-30  5:12   ` Stephen Hemminger
2020-11-30 10:41     ` Eric Dumazet
2020-11-30 18:14       ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-11-30 18:30         ` Eric Dumazet
2020-11-30 18:48         ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-11-30 19:00           ` Eric Dumazet
2020-11-30 19:03             ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-11-30 19:22               ` Eric Dumazet
2020-11-30 19:32                 ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-11-30 21:41                   ` Florian Fainelli
2020-11-30 19:46                 ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-11-30 20:18                   ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2020-11-30 20:21                   ` Stephen Hemminger
2020-11-30 20:26                     ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-11-30 20:29                       ` Eric Dumazet
2020-11-30 20:36                         ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-11-30 20:43                           ` Eric Dumazet
2020-11-30 20:50                             ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-11-30 21:00                               ` Eric Dumazet
2020-11-30 21:11                                 ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-11-30 21:46                                   ` Eric Dumazet
2020-11-30 21:53                                     ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-11-30 22:20                                       ` Eric Dumazet
2020-11-30 22:41                                         ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-12-01 14:42           ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2020-12-01 18:58             ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-12-10  4:32           ` [PATCH] net: bonding: retrieve device statistics under RTNL, not RCU kernel test robot

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