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From: Jacob Keller <jacob.e.keller@intel.com>
To: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
Cc: <davem@davemloft.net>, <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	<edumazet@google.com>, <pabeni@redhat.com>, <jiri@resnulli.us>,
	<leon@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC net-next 03/15] devlink: split out netlink code
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2022 11:35:57 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <efdf69f7-7010-55c2-b4e2-8a647974bfbf@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20221215111411.5b6d3f5e@kernel.org>



On 12/15/2022 11:14 AM, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Dec 2022 10:45:48 -0800 Jacob Keller wrote:
>> On 12/14/2022 6:01 PM, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
>>> Move out the netlink glue into a separate file.
>>> Leave the ops in the old file because we'd have to export a ton
>>> of functions. Going forward we should switch to split ops which
>>> will let us to put the new ops in the netlink.c file.
>>>   
>> Moving to split ops will also be a requirement for per-op policy right?
> 
> We can mix within one family, tho, IIRC.
> So new ops can have their own families and the old ones can stick to
> the family policy (unless someone takes the risk of converting them).

I would like to convert them at some point, even if we leave the old
commands as non-strict. Either way I think it would be preferable to
begin enforcing that new ops must be strict and must be per-op policy.

I personally think that moving from non-strict to strict should be ok
especially if we plan it over a few releases. A sane user space
application would generally prefer to be told "this is unacceptable"
rather than have the wrong operation done, or have its attributes
silently ignored... but I can understand the argument against breaking
user space that used to work.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-12-15 19:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-12-15  2:01 [RFC net-next 00/15] devlink: code split and structured instance walk Jakub Kicinski
2022-12-15  2:01 ` [RFC net-next 01/15] devlink: move code to a dedicated directory Jakub Kicinski
2022-12-15  9:51   ` Jiri Pirko
2022-12-15 18:44     ` Jacob Keller
2022-12-15 19:13       ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-12-15 19:09     ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-12-15 19:29       ` Jacob Keller
2022-12-15 19:48         ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-12-16  9:09           ` Jiri Pirko
2022-12-16  9:10       ` Jiri Pirko
2022-12-16 18:32         ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-12-16 23:26           ` Jacob Keller
2022-12-15  2:01 ` [RFC net-next 02/15] devlink: split out core code Jakub Kicinski
2022-12-15  2:01 ` [RFC net-next 03/15] devlink: split out netlink code Jakub Kicinski
2022-12-15 18:45   ` Jacob Keller
2022-12-15 19:14     ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-12-15 19:35       ` Jacob Keller [this message]
2022-12-15  2:01 ` [RFC net-next 04/15] devlink: protect devlink dump by the instance lock Jakub Kicinski
2022-12-15  8:42   ` Jiri Pirko
2022-12-15 19:17     ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-12-15  2:01 ` [RFC net-next 05/15] netlink: add macro for checking dump ctx size Jakub Kicinski
2022-12-15  2:01 ` [RFC net-next 06/15] devlink: use an explicit structure for dump context Jakub Kicinski
2022-12-15  9:52   ` Jiri Pirko
2022-12-15 18:50   ` Jacob Keller
2022-12-15 19:18     ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-12-15  2:01 ` [RFC net-next 07/15] devlink: remove start variables from dumps Jakub Kicinski
2022-12-15  2:01 ` [RFC net-next 08/15] devlink: drop the filter argument from devlinks_xa_find_get Jakub Kicinski
2022-12-15 18:52   ` Jacob Keller
2022-12-15  2:01 ` [RFC net-next 09/15] devlink: health: combine loops in dump Jakub Kicinski
2022-12-15  2:01 ` [RFC net-next 10/15] devlink: restart dump based on devlink instance ids (simple) Jakub Kicinski
2022-12-15 18:59   ` Jacob Keller
2022-12-15  2:01 ` [RFC net-next 11/15] devlink: restart dump based on devlink instance ids (nested) Jakub Kicinski
2022-12-15  2:01 ` [RFC net-next 12/15] devlink: restart dump based on devlink instance ids (function) Jakub Kicinski
2022-12-15  2:01 ` [RFC net-next 13/15] devlink: uniformly take the devlink instance lock in the dump loop Jakub Kicinski
2022-12-15  2:01 ` [RFC net-next 14/15] devlink: add by-instance dump infra Jakub Kicinski
2022-12-15  9:11   ` Jiri Pirko
2022-12-15 19:24     ` Jacob Keller
2022-12-15 19:47     ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-12-16  9:23       ` Jiri Pirko
2022-12-15 19:03   ` Jacob Keller
2022-12-15  2:01 ` [RFC net-next 15/15] devlink: convert remaining dumps to the by-instance scheme Jakub Kicinski
2022-12-15 19:39 ` [RFC net-next 00/15] devlink: code split and structured instance walk Jacob Keller

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