From: Vadim Fedorenko <vadim.fedorenko@linux.dev>
To: Eric Joyner <eric.joyner@amd.com>, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Cc: Michael Chan <michael.chan@broadcom.com>,
Pavan Chebbi <pavan.chebbi@broadcom.com>,
Andrew Lunn <andrew+netdev@lunn.ch>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
Saeed Mahameed <saeedm@nvidia.com>,
Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org>,
Tariq Toukan <tariqt@nvidia.com>, Mark Bloch <mbloch@nvidia.com>,
Simon Horman <horms@kernel.org>,
Maxime Chevallier <maxime.chevallier@bootlin.com>,
Brett Creeley <brett.creeley@amd.com>,
Breno Leitao <leitao@debian.org>,
"Nikhil P. Rao" <nikhil.rao@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net] ethtool: Embed FEC hist ranges as buffer in struct
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2026 19:40:01 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <f136bfb9-1756-4668-acc3-68962cdc6069@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <303a0166-efd5-48b1-8a52-39780095b7a1@amd.com>
On 13.07.2026 23:37, Eric Joyner wrote:
> On 7/11/2026 2:03 PM, Vadim Fedorenko wrote:
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>>
>> On 11/07/2026 00:00, Eric Joyner wrote:
>>> When a driver's .get_fec_stats() handler is called and the driver
>>> supports FEC histogram stats, the driver supplies the histogram bin
>>> ranges via a pointer. This pointer is assigned while under the netdev
>>> ops lock in fec_prepare_data(), but the actual data is only read after
>>> the lock is released; so this allows the driver to change the ranges
>>> (e.g. from another .get_fec_stats() call) while the current call chain
>>> is reading them in fec_fill_reply().
>>>
>>> Fix this by embedding a buffer for the driver-supplied ranges in struct
>>> ethtool_fec_hist instead of using a pointer; this ensures there's an
>>> ethtool core-owned consistent copy that can be used after the netdev ops
>>> lock is dropped and later in fec_fill_reply(). While some drivers like
>>> bnxt use a constant struct for their ranges and won't be affected by
>>> this issue, others like mlx5 (and eventually ionic) will use a
>>> dynamically constructed range struct and could potentially run into an
>>> issue.
>>
>> I didn't like the idea of dynamic range, FEC is not changing while the
>> link is UP, I don't see a reason to dynamically reconstruct histogram
>> bins every single call. And the histogram itself is stable per HW per
>> FEC, can be constant pre-defined struct in a driver, like in bnxt.
>>
>> But if dynamic allocation is the only option, then yes, we have to
>> change this ABI.
>
> We can discuss this more.
>
> I think overall drivers aren't going to need to dynamically allocate a range; I
> mention ionic but at the moment I think there's only going to be two possible
> FEC ranges; the sixteen bin one for RS(544,514) and I think what should be a
> reduced size eight bin one for low latency RS-FEC RS(272,258) (unlike the 802.3
> spec the Ethernet Consortium Spec for LL RS-FEC doesn't talk about a histogram,
> but FEC math says those parameters can only correct up to 7-bit errors).
>
> So one option could be to have the pointer be required to point to static
> memory; or possibly a pre-defined histogram range entry in the kernel? I don't
> see any other drivers currently combining multiple bit-error counts into one bin
> and I wasn't sure if that's something the mlx5 driver actually uses, too.
>
> OTOH, doing this dynamic range calculation should be computationally pretty
> cheap overall, and provides flexibility without keeping or adding new
> concurrency problems (which is an important concern!), so I don't mind the
> current approach even if it does look wasteful.
After thinking a bit more, I don't like the idea of copying static constants
over and over again in cases where we have pre-defined ranges. What about adding
an array to the pointer, so drivers with dynamic range calculation can fill up
array per query while others can simply put a static const pointer and don't do
memcpy?
>
>>
>>> Since the kernel API changed here, change the in-tree drivers that
>>> report FEC histogram stats to copy their ranges instead of just
>>> supplying a pointer.
>>>
>>> Fixes: cc2f08129925 ("ethtool: add FEC bins histogram report")
>>> Signed-off-by: Eric Joyner <eric.joyner@amd.com>
>
prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-07-21 18:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-07-10 23:00 [PATCH net] ethtool: Embed FEC hist ranges as buffer in struct Eric Joyner
2026-07-11 21:03 ` Vadim Fedorenko
2026-07-13 22:37 ` Eric Joyner
2026-07-14 7:24 ` Vadim Fedorenko
2026-07-21 18:40 ` Vadim Fedorenko [this message]
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