* [PATCH net-next 0/2] ethtool: add support for Fast Link Down as new PHY tunable
@ 2019-03-24 15:01 Heiner Kallweit
2019-03-24 15:02 ` [PATCH net-next 1/2] ethtool: add PHY Fast Link Down support Heiner Kallweit
2019-03-24 15:04 ` [PATCH net-next 2/2] net: phy: marvell: add PHY tunable fast link down support for 88E1540 Heiner Kallweit
0 siblings, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Heiner Kallweit @ 2019-03-24 15:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Andrew Lunn, Florian Fainelli, David Miller, John W. Linville
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org
This adds support for Fast Link Down as new PHY tunable.
Fast Link Down reduces the time until a link down event is reported
for 1000BaseT. According to the standard it's 750ms what is too long
for several use cases.
This is the kernel-related series, the ethtool userspace extension
I'd submit once the kernel part has been applied.
Heiner Kallweit (2):
ethtool: add PHY Fast Link Down support
net: phy: marvell: add PHY tunable fast link down support for 88E1540
drivers/net/phy/marvell.c | 108 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
include/uapi/linux/ethtool.h | 4 ++
net/core/ethtool.c | 2 +
3 files changed, 114 insertions(+)
--
2.21.0
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* [PATCH net-next 1/2] ethtool: add PHY Fast Link Down support
2019-03-24 15:01 [PATCH net-next 0/2] ethtool: add support for Fast Link Down as new PHY tunable Heiner Kallweit
@ 2019-03-24 15:02 ` Heiner Kallweit
2019-03-25 17:49 ` Michal Kubecek
2019-03-24 15:04 ` [PATCH net-next 2/2] net: phy: marvell: add PHY tunable fast link down support for 88E1540 Heiner Kallweit
1 sibling, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Heiner Kallweit @ 2019-03-24 15:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Andrew Lunn, Florian Fainelli, David Miller, John W. Linville
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org
This adds support for Fast Link Down as new PHY tunable.
Fast Link Down reduces the time until a link down event is reported
for 1000BaseT. According to the standard it's 750ms what is too long
for several use cases.
Signed-off-by: Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>
---
include/uapi/linux/ethtool.h | 4 ++++
net/core/ethtool.c | 2 ++
2 files changed, 6 insertions(+)
diff --git a/include/uapi/linux/ethtool.h b/include/uapi/linux/ethtool.h
index 3652b239d..2c7136adc 100644
--- a/include/uapi/linux/ethtool.h
+++ b/include/uapi/linux/ethtool.h
@@ -252,9 +252,13 @@ struct ethtool_tunable {
#define DOWNSHIFT_DEV_DEFAULT_COUNT 0xff
#define DOWNSHIFT_DEV_DISABLE 0
+#define ETHTOOL_PHY_FAST_LINK_DOWN_ON 0
+#define ETHTOOL_PHY_FAST_LINK_DOWN_OFF 0xff
+
enum phy_tunable_id {
ETHTOOL_PHY_ID_UNSPEC,
ETHTOOL_PHY_DOWNSHIFT,
+ ETHTOOL_PHY_FAST_LINK_DOWN,
/*
* Add your fresh new phy tunable attribute above and remember to update
* phy_tunable_strings[] in net/core/ethtool.c
diff --git a/net/core/ethtool.c b/net/core/ethtool.c
index b1eb32419..387d67eb7 100644
--- a/net/core/ethtool.c
+++ b/net/core/ethtool.c
@@ -136,6 +136,7 @@ static const char
phy_tunable_strings[__ETHTOOL_PHY_TUNABLE_COUNT][ETH_GSTRING_LEN] = {
[ETHTOOL_ID_UNSPEC] = "Unspec",
[ETHTOOL_PHY_DOWNSHIFT] = "phy-downshift",
+ [ETHTOOL_PHY_FAST_LINK_DOWN] = "phy-fast-link-down",
};
static int ethtool_get_features(struct net_device *dev, void __user *useraddr)
@@ -2432,6 +2433,7 @@ static int ethtool_phy_tunable_valid(const struct ethtool_tunable *tuna)
{
switch (tuna->id) {
case ETHTOOL_PHY_DOWNSHIFT:
+ case ETHTOOL_PHY_FAST_LINK_DOWN:
if (tuna->len != sizeof(u8) ||
tuna->type_id != ETHTOOL_TUNABLE_U8)
return -EINVAL;
--
2.21.0
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* [PATCH net-next 2/2] net: phy: marvell: add PHY tunable fast link down support for 88E1540
2019-03-24 15:01 [PATCH net-next 0/2] ethtool: add support for Fast Link Down as new PHY tunable Heiner Kallweit
2019-03-24 15:02 ` [PATCH net-next 1/2] ethtool: add PHY Fast Link Down support Heiner Kallweit
@ 2019-03-24 15:04 ` Heiner Kallweit
1 sibling, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Heiner Kallweit @ 2019-03-24 15:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Andrew Lunn, Florian Fainelli, David Miller, John W. Linville
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org
1000BaseT standard requires that a link is reported as down earliest
after 750ms. Several use case however require a much faster detecion
of a broken link. Fast Link Down supports this by intentionally
violating a the standard. This patch exposes the Fast Link Down
feature of 88E1540 and 88E6390. These PHY's can be found as internal
PHY's in several switches: 88E6352, 88E6240, 88E6176, 88E6172,
and 88E6390(X). Fast Link Down and EEE are mutually exclusive.
Signed-off-by: Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>
---
drivers/net/phy/marvell.c | 108 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 file changed, 108 insertions(+)
diff --git a/drivers/net/phy/marvell.c b/drivers/net/phy/marvell.c
index 3ccba37bd..65350186d 100644
--- a/drivers/net/phy/marvell.c
+++ b/drivers/net/phy/marvell.c
@@ -29,6 +29,7 @@
#include <linux/ethtool.h>
#include <linux/phy.h>
#include <linux/marvell_phy.h>
+#include <linux/bitfield.h>
#include <linux/of.h>
#include <linux/io.h>
@@ -91,6 +92,14 @@
#define MII_88E1510_TEMP_SENSOR 0x1b
#define MII_88E1510_TEMP_SENSOR_MASK 0xff
+#define MII_88E1540_COPPER_CTRL3 0x1a
+#define MII_88E1540_COPPER_CTRL3_LINK_DOWN_DELAY_MASK GENMASK(11, 10)
+#define MII_88E1540_COPPER_CTRL3_LINK_DOWN_DELAY_00MS 0
+#define MII_88E1540_COPPER_CTRL3_LINK_DOWN_DELAY_10MS 1
+#define MII_88E1540_COPPER_CTRL3_LINK_DOWN_DELAY_20MS 2
+#define MII_88E1540_COPPER_CTRL3_LINK_DOWN_DELAY_40MS 3
+#define MII_88E1540_COPPER_CTRL3_FAST_LINK_DOWN BIT(9)
+
#define MII_88E6390_MISC_TEST 0x1b
#define MII_88E6390_MISC_TEST_SAMPLE_1S 0
#define MII_88E6390_MISC_TEST_SAMPLE_10MS BIT(14)
@@ -1025,6 +1034,101 @@ static int m88e1145_config_init(struct phy_device *phydev)
return 0;
}
+static int m88e1540_get_fld(struct phy_device *phydev, u8 *msecs)
+{
+ int val;
+
+ val = phy_read(phydev, MII_88E1540_COPPER_CTRL3);
+ if (val < 0)
+ return val;
+
+ if (!(val & MII_88E1540_COPPER_CTRL3_FAST_LINK_DOWN)) {
+ *msecs = ETHTOOL_PHY_FAST_LINK_DOWN_OFF;
+ return 0;
+ }
+
+ val = FIELD_GET(MII_88E1540_COPPER_CTRL3_LINK_DOWN_DELAY_MASK, val);
+
+ switch (val) {
+ case MII_88E1540_COPPER_CTRL3_LINK_DOWN_DELAY_00MS:
+ *msecs = 0;
+ break;
+ case MII_88E1540_COPPER_CTRL3_LINK_DOWN_DELAY_10MS:
+ *msecs = 10;
+ break;
+ case MII_88E1540_COPPER_CTRL3_LINK_DOWN_DELAY_20MS:
+ *msecs = 20;
+ break;
+ case MII_88E1540_COPPER_CTRL3_LINK_DOWN_DELAY_40MS:
+ *msecs = 40;
+ break;
+ default:
+ return -EINVAL;
+ }
+
+ return 0;
+}
+
+static int m88e1540_set_fld(struct phy_device *phydev, const u8 *msecs)
+{
+ struct ethtool_eee eee;
+ int val, ret;
+
+ if (*msecs == ETHTOOL_PHY_FAST_LINK_DOWN_OFF)
+ return phy_clear_bits(phydev, MII_88E1540_COPPER_CTRL3,
+ MII_88E1540_COPPER_CTRL3_FAST_LINK_DOWN);
+
+ /* According to the Marvell data sheet EEE must be disabled for
+ * Fast Link Down detection to work properly
+ */
+ ret = phy_ethtool_get_eee(phydev, &eee);
+ if (!ret && eee.eee_enabled) {
+ phydev_warn(phydev, "Fast Link Down detection requires EEE to be disabled!\n");
+ return -EBUSY;
+ }
+
+ if (*msecs <= 5)
+ val = MII_88E1540_COPPER_CTRL3_LINK_DOWN_DELAY_00MS;
+ else if (*msecs <= 15)
+ val = MII_88E1540_COPPER_CTRL3_LINK_DOWN_DELAY_10MS;
+ else if (*msecs <= 30)
+ val = MII_88E1540_COPPER_CTRL3_LINK_DOWN_DELAY_20MS;
+ else
+ val = MII_88E1540_COPPER_CTRL3_LINK_DOWN_DELAY_40MS;
+
+ val = FIELD_PREP(MII_88E1540_COPPER_CTRL3_LINK_DOWN_DELAY_MASK, val);
+
+ ret = phy_modify(phydev, MII_88E1540_COPPER_CTRL3,
+ MII_88E1540_COPPER_CTRL3_LINK_DOWN_DELAY_MASK, val);
+ if (ret)
+ return ret;
+
+ return phy_set_bits(phydev, MII_88E1540_COPPER_CTRL3,
+ MII_88E1540_COPPER_CTRL3_FAST_LINK_DOWN);
+}
+
+static int m88e1540_get_tunable(struct phy_device *phydev,
+ struct ethtool_tunable *tuna, void *data)
+{
+ switch (tuna->id) {
+ case ETHTOOL_PHY_FAST_LINK_DOWN:
+ return m88e1540_get_fld(phydev, data);
+ default:
+ return -EOPNOTSUPP;
+ }
+}
+
+static int m88e1540_set_tunable(struct phy_device *phydev,
+ struct ethtool_tunable *tuna, const void *data)
+{
+ switch (tuna->id) {
+ case ETHTOOL_PHY_FAST_LINK_DOWN:
+ return m88e1540_set_fld(phydev, data);
+ default:
+ return -EOPNOTSUPP;
+ }
+}
+
/* The VOD can be out of specification on link up. Poke an
* undocumented register, in an undocumented page, with a magic value
* to fix this.
@@ -2247,6 +2351,8 @@ static struct phy_driver marvell_drivers[] = {
.get_sset_count = marvell_get_sset_count,
.get_strings = marvell_get_strings,
.get_stats = marvell_get_stats,
+ .get_tunable = m88e1540_get_tunable,
+ .set_tunable = m88e1540_set_tunable,
},
{
.phy_id = MARVELL_PHY_ID_88E1545,
@@ -2307,6 +2413,8 @@ static struct phy_driver marvell_drivers[] = {
.get_sset_count = marvell_get_sset_count,
.get_strings = marvell_get_strings,
.get_stats = marvell_get_stats,
+ .get_tunable = m88e1540_get_tunable,
+ .set_tunable = m88e1540_set_tunable,
},
};
--
2.21.0
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* Re: [PATCH net-next 1/2] ethtool: add PHY Fast Link Down support
2019-03-24 15:02 ` [PATCH net-next 1/2] ethtool: add PHY Fast Link Down support Heiner Kallweit
@ 2019-03-25 17:49 ` Michal Kubecek
2019-03-25 18:10 ` Heiner Kallweit
2019-03-26 8:24 ` Andrew Lunn
0 siblings, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Michal Kubecek @ 2019-03-25 17:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Heiner Kallweit
Cc: Andrew Lunn, Florian Fainelli, David Miller, John W. Linville,
netdev@vger.kernel.org
On Sun, Mar 24, 2019 at 04:02:43PM +0100, Heiner Kallweit wrote:
> This adds support for Fast Link Down as new PHY tunable.
> Fast Link Down reduces the time until a link down event is reported
> for 1000BaseT. According to the standard it's 750ms what is too long
> for several use cases.
>
> Signed-off-by: Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>
> ---
> include/uapi/linux/ethtool.h | 4 ++++
> net/core/ethtool.c | 2 ++
> 2 files changed, 6 insertions(+)
>
> diff --git a/include/uapi/linux/ethtool.h b/include/uapi/linux/ethtool.h
> index 3652b239d..2c7136adc 100644
> --- a/include/uapi/linux/ethtool.h
> +++ b/include/uapi/linux/ethtool.h
> @@ -252,9 +252,13 @@ struct ethtool_tunable {
> #define DOWNSHIFT_DEV_DEFAULT_COUNT 0xff
> #define DOWNSHIFT_DEV_DISABLE 0
>
> +#define ETHTOOL_PHY_FAST_LINK_DOWN_ON 0
> +#define ETHTOOL_PHY_FAST_LINK_DOWN_OFF 0xff
> +
> enum phy_tunable_id {
> ETHTOOL_PHY_ID_UNSPEC,
> ETHTOOL_PHY_DOWNSHIFT,
> + ETHTOOL_PHY_FAST_LINK_DOWN,
> /*
> * Add your fresh new phy tunable attribute above and remember to update
> * phy_tunable_strings[] in net/core/ethtool.c
It would be nice to have a short summary around here explaining how is
the value interpreted. While it's obvious from the second patch, one
shouldn't have to go into driver specific implementation to find out.
I also wonder if the range 0-254 ms is sufficient. Would it be possible
that there is some other hardware which would support e.g. 300 ms?
Michal Kubecek
> diff --git a/net/core/ethtool.c b/net/core/ethtool.c
> index b1eb32419..387d67eb7 100644
> --- a/net/core/ethtool.c
> +++ b/net/core/ethtool.c
> @@ -136,6 +136,7 @@ static const char
> phy_tunable_strings[__ETHTOOL_PHY_TUNABLE_COUNT][ETH_GSTRING_LEN] = {
> [ETHTOOL_ID_UNSPEC] = "Unspec",
> [ETHTOOL_PHY_DOWNSHIFT] = "phy-downshift",
> + [ETHTOOL_PHY_FAST_LINK_DOWN] = "phy-fast-link-down",
> };
>
> static int ethtool_get_features(struct net_device *dev, void __user *useraddr)
> @@ -2432,6 +2433,7 @@ static int ethtool_phy_tunable_valid(const struct ethtool_tunable *tuna)
> {
> switch (tuna->id) {
> case ETHTOOL_PHY_DOWNSHIFT:
> + case ETHTOOL_PHY_FAST_LINK_DOWN:
> if (tuna->len != sizeof(u8) ||
> tuna->type_id != ETHTOOL_TUNABLE_U8)
> return -EINVAL;
> --
> 2.21.0
>
>
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* Re: [PATCH net-next 1/2] ethtool: add PHY Fast Link Down support
2019-03-25 17:49 ` Michal Kubecek
@ 2019-03-25 18:10 ` Heiner Kallweit
2019-03-26 8:24 ` Andrew Lunn
1 sibling, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Heiner Kallweit @ 2019-03-25 18:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Michal Kubecek
Cc: Andrew Lunn, Florian Fainelli, David Miller, John W. Linville,
netdev@vger.kernel.org
On 25.03.2019 18:49, Michal Kubecek wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 24, 2019 at 04:02:43PM +0100, Heiner Kallweit wrote:
>> This adds support for Fast Link Down as new PHY tunable.
>> Fast Link Down reduces the time until a link down event is reported
>> for 1000BaseT. According to the standard it's 750ms what is too long
>> for several use cases.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>
>> ---
>> include/uapi/linux/ethtool.h | 4 ++++
>> net/core/ethtool.c | 2 ++
>> 2 files changed, 6 insertions(+)
>>
>> diff --git a/include/uapi/linux/ethtool.h b/include/uapi/linux/ethtool.h
>> index 3652b239d..2c7136adc 100644
>> --- a/include/uapi/linux/ethtool.h
>> +++ b/include/uapi/linux/ethtool.h
>> @@ -252,9 +252,13 @@ struct ethtool_tunable {
>> #define DOWNSHIFT_DEV_DEFAULT_COUNT 0xff
>> #define DOWNSHIFT_DEV_DISABLE 0
>>
>> +#define ETHTOOL_PHY_FAST_LINK_DOWN_ON 0
>> +#define ETHTOOL_PHY_FAST_LINK_DOWN_OFF 0xff
>> +
>> enum phy_tunable_id {
>> ETHTOOL_PHY_ID_UNSPEC,
>> ETHTOOL_PHY_DOWNSHIFT,
>> + ETHTOOL_PHY_FAST_LINK_DOWN,
>> /*
>> * Add your fresh new phy tunable attribute above and remember to update
>> * phy_tunable_strings[] in net/core/ethtool.c
>
> It would be nice to have a short summary around here explaining how is
> the value interpreted. While it's obvious from the second patch, one
> shouldn't have to go into driver specific implementation to find out.
>
OK
> I also wonder if the range 0-254 ms is sufficient. Would it be possible
> that there is some other hardware which would support e.g. 300 ms?
>
The relevant use cases (according to the Marvell spec) require link down
recognition in <50ms. Something >200ms I think wouldn't be considered
as "fast" in general.
And for something completely different, all mails to John are bounced currently:
rejected because 209.85.128.65 is in a black list at 0spam.fusionzero.com Received: from mail-wm1-f65.google.com
I tried from another email address, but same result.
> Michal Kubecek
>
Heiner
>> diff --git a/net/core/ethtool.c b/net/core/ethtool.c
>> index b1eb32419..387d67eb7 100644
>> --- a/net/core/ethtool.c
>> +++ b/net/core/ethtool.c
>> @@ -136,6 +136,7 @@ static const char
>> phy_tunable_strings[__ETHTOOL_PHY_TUNABLE_COUNT][ETH_GSTRING_LEN] = {
>> [ETHTOOL_ID_UNSPEC] = "Unspec",
>> [ETHTOOL_PHY_DOWNSHIFT] = "phy-downshift",
>> + [ETHTOOL_PHY_FAST_LINK_DOWN] = "phy-fast-link-down",
>> };
>>
>> static int ethtool_get_features(struct net_device *dev, void __user *useraddr)
>> @@ -2432,6 +2433,7 @@ static int ethtool_phy_tunable_valid(const struct ethtool_tunable *tuna)
>> {
>> switch (tuna->id) {
>> case ETHTOOL_PHY_DOWNSHIFT:
>> + case ETHTOOL_PHY_FAST_LINK_DOWN:
>> if (tuna->len != sizeof(u8) ||
>> tuna->type_id != ETHTOOL_TUNABLE_U8)
>> return -EINVAL;
>> --
>> 2.21.0
>>
>>
>
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* Re: [PATCH net-next 1/2] ethtool: add PHY Fast Link Down support
2019-03-25 17:49 ` Michal Kubecek
2019-03-25 18:10 ` Heiner Kallweit
@ 2019-03-26 8:24 ` Andrew Lunn
2019-03-26 9:17 ` Michal Kubecek
2019-03-26 18:24 ` Heiner Kallweit
1 sibling, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Andrew Lunn @ 2019-03-26 8:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Michal Kubecek
Cc: Heiner Kallweit, Florian Fainelli, David Miller, John W. Linville,
netdev@vger.kernel.org
> > +#define ETHTOOL_PHY_FAST_LINK_DOWN_ON 0
> > +#define ETHTOOL_PHY_FAST_LINK_DOWN_OFF 0xff
> > +
> > enum phy_tunable_id {
> > ETHTOOL_PHY_ID_UNSPEC,
> > ETHTOOL_PHY_DOWNSHIFT,
> > + ETHTOOL_PHY_FAST_LINK_DOWN,
> > /*
> > * Add your fresh new phy tunable attribute above and remember to update
> > * phy_tunable_strings[] in net/core/ethtool.c
>
> It would be nice to have a short summary around here explaining how is
> the value interpreted. While it's obvious from the second patch, one
> shouldn't have to go into driver specific implementation to find out.
>
> I also wonder if the range 0-254 ms is sufficient. Would it be possible
> that there is some other hardware which would support e.g. 300 ms?
The default, as defined by the 802.3 standard, is i think 750ms.
The Marvel PHY also supports 50ms, 20ms and 0ms, if i remember
correctly.
One problem we have here is discovery. How does the user find out the
values the driver supports. For a netlink socket API, extended errors
could be used to pass back a string indicating the supported
values. For the old ethtool, i think all we have is -EINVAL, which is
not very helpful.
Andrew
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* Re: [PATCH net-next 1/2] ethtool: add PHY Fast Link Down support
2019-03-26 8:24 ` Andrew Lunn
@ 2019-03-26 9:17 ` Michal Kubecek
2019-03-26 18:28 ` Heiner Kallweit
2019-03-26 18:24 ` Heiner Kallweit
1 sibling, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Michal Kubecek @ 2019-03-26 9:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Andrew Lunn
Cc: Heiner Kallweit, Florian Fainelli, David Miller, John W. Linville,
netdev@vger.kernel.org
On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 09:24:38AM +0100, Andrew Lunn wrote:
> > > +#define ETHTOOL_PHY_FAST_LINK_DOWN_ON 0
> > > +#define ETHTOOL_PHY_FAST_LINK_DOWN_OFF 0xff
> > > +
> > > enum phy_tunable_id {
> > > ETHTOOL_PHY_ID_UNSPEC,
> > > ETHTOOL_PHY_DOWNSHIFT,
> > > + ETHTOOL_PHY_FAST_LINK_DOWN,
> > > /*
> > > * Add your fresh new phy tunable attribute above and remember to update
> > > * phy_tunable_strings[] in net/core/ethtool.c
> >
> > It would be nice to have a short summary around here explaining how is
> > the value interpreted. While it's obvious from the second patch, one
> > shouldn't have to go into driver specific implementation to find out.
> >
> > I also wonder if the range 0-254 ms is sufficient. Would it be possible
> > that there is some other hardware which would support e.g. 300 ms?
>
> The default, as defined by the 802.3 standard, is i think 750ms.
>
> The Marvel PHY also supports 50ms, 20ms and 0ms, if i remember
> correctly.
The reason why I asked about this is that PHY tunables are supposed to
be universal, not specific to a particular driver, and there might be
other hardware supporting the feature with different set of supported
values.
> One problem we have here is discovery. How does the user find out the
> values the driver supports. For a netlink socket API, extended errors
> could be used to pass back a string indicating the supported
> values. For the old ethtool, i think all we have is -EINVAL, which is
> not very helpful.
As supported values are determined by the driver, we would need to pass
extack to ethtool_ops handler - but that is something we will want to do
eventually (ideally, for all ethtool_ops handlers).
AFAICS the implementation in patch 2/2 rounds user supplied value to
closest value supported by hardware so that user doesn't have to guess
which values are supported. But it would still deserve a warning via
netlink extack, IMHO.
Michal
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* Re: [PATCH net-next 1/2] ethtool: add PHY Fast Link Down support
2019-03-26 8:24 ` Andrew Lunn
2019-03-26 9:17 ` Michal Kubecek
@ 2019-03-26 18:24 ` Heiner Kallweit
1 sibling, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Heiner Kallweit @ 2019-03-26 18:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Andrew Lunn, Michal Kubecek
Cc: Florian Fainelli, David Miller, John W. Linville,
netdev@vger.kernel.org
On 26.03.2019 09:24, Andrew Lunn wrote:
>>> +#define ETHTOOL_PHY_FAST_LINK_DOWN_ON 0
>>> +#define ETHTOOL_PHY_FAST_LINK_DOWN_OFF 0xff
>>> +
>>> enum phy_tunable_id {
>>> ETHTOOL_PHY_ID_UNSPEC,
>>> ETHTOOL_PHY_DOWNSHIFT,
>>> + ETHTOOL_PHY_FAST_LINK_DOWN,
>>> /*
>>> * Add your fresh new phy tunable attribute above and remember to update
>>> * phy_tunable_strings[] in net/core/ethtool.c
>>
>> It would be nice to have a short summary around here explaining how is
>> the value interpreted. While it's obvious from the second patch, one
>> shouldn't have to go into driver specific implementation to find out.
>>
>> I also wonder if the range 0-254 ms is sufficient. Would it be possible
>> that there is some other hardware which would support e.g. 300 ms?
>
> The default, as defined by the 802.3 standard, is i think 750ms.
>
Clause 40. From what I've found this applies to 1000BaseT only.
> The Marvel PHY also supports 50ms, 20ms and 0ms, if i remember
> correctly.
>
0, 10, 20, 40ms (at least for 88E1540 and 88E6390)
> One problem we have here is discovery. How does the user find out the
> values the driver supports. For a netlink socket API, extended errors
> could be used to pass back a string indicating the supported
> values. For the old ethtool, i think all we have is -EINVAL, which is
> not very helpful.
>
> Andrew
> .
>
Heiner
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* Re: [PATCH net-next 1/2] ethtool: add PHY Fast Link Down support
2019-03-26 9:17 ` Michal Kubecek
@ 2019-03-26 18:28 ` Heiner Kallweit
2019-03-27 8:48 ` Andrew Lunn
0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Heiner Kallweit @ 2019-03-26 18:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Michal Kubecek, Andrew Lunn
Cc: Florian Fainelli, David Miller, John W. Linville,
netdev@vger.kernel.org
On 26.03.2019 10:17, Michal Kubecek wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 09:24:38AM +0100, Andrew Lunn wrote:
>>>> +#define ETHTOOL_PHY_FAST_LINK_DOWN_ON 0
>>>> +#define ETHTOOL_PHY_FAST_LINK_DOWN_OFF 0xff
>>>> +
>>>> enum phy_tunable_id {
>>>> ETHTOOL_PHY_ID_UNSPEC,
>>>> ETHTOOL_PHY_DOWNSHIFT,
>>>> + ETHTOOL_PHY_FAST_LINK_DOWN,
>>>> /*
>>>> * Add your fresh new phy tunable attribute above and remember to update
>>>> * phy_tunable_strings[] in net/core/ethtool.c
>>>
>>> It would be nice to have a short summary around here explaining how is
>>> the value interpreted. While it's obvious from the second patch, one
>>> shouldn't have to go into driver specific implementation to find out.
>>>
>>> I also wonder if the range 0-254 ms is sufficient. Would it be possible
>>> that there is some other hardware which would support e.g. 300 ms?
>>
>> The default, as defined by the 802.3 standard, is i think 750ms.
>>
>> The Marvel PHY also supports 50ms, 20ms and 0ms, if i remember
>> correctly.
>
> The reason why I asked about this is that PHY tunables are supposed to
> be universal, not specific to a particular driver, and there might be
> other hardware supporting the feature with different set of supported
> values.
>
>> One problem we have here is discovery. How does the user find out the
>> values the driver supports. For a netlink socket API, extended errors
>> could be used to pass back a string indicating the supported
>> values. For the old ethtool, i think all we have is -EINVAL, which is
>> not very helpful.
>
> As supported values are determined by the driver, we would need to pass
> extack to ethtool_ops handler - but that is something we will want to do
> eventually (ideally, for all ethtool_ops handlers).
>
> AFAICS the implementation in patch 2/2 rounds user supplied value to
> closest value supported by hardware so that user doesn't have to guess
> which values are supported. But it would still deserve a warning via
> netlink extack, IMHO.
>
Not to confuse Dave with the discussion:
This is not about whether the patch is wrong or right, but about how
a future architecture based on ethtool-nl could look like.
Like Michael said, based on the current ethtool architecture it's simple:
Driver will choose closest supported value. When reading back the setting
you will get the exact value chosen by the driver.
> Michal
> .
>
Heiner
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* Re: [PATCH net-next 1/2] ethtool: add PHY Fast Link Down support
2019-03-26 18:28 ` Heiner Kallweit
@ 2019-03-27 8:48 ` Andrew Lunn
0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Andrew Lunn @ 2019-03-27 8:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Heiner Kallweit
Cc: Michal Kubecek, Florian Fainelli, David Miller, John W. Linville,
netdev@vger.kernel.org
> Not to confuse Dave with the discussion:
> This is not about whether the patch is wrong or right, but about how
> a future architecture based on ethtool-nl could look like.
>
> Like Michael said, based on the current ethtool architecture it's simple:
> Driver will choose closest supported value. When reading back the setting
> you will get the exact value chosen by the driver.
Hi Heiner
Yes, i read you actual patch later.
Rounding down to the nearest seems sensible. When you write the man
page patch for ethtool, please document this.
Andrew
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