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From: Jacob Keller <jacob.e.keller@intel.com>
To: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>
Cc: <davem@davemloft.net>, <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	<edumazet@google.com>, <pabeni@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 7/9] devlink: allow registering parameters after the instance
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2023 13:29:03 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f5d9201b-fb73-ebfe-3ad3-4172164a33f3@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230111084549.258b32fb@kernel.org>



On 1/11/2023 8:45 AM, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 10:32:13 +0100 Jiri Pirko wrote:
>>>> I'm confused. You want to register objects after instance register?  
>>>
>>> +1, I think it's an anti-pattern.  
>>
>> Could you elaborate a bit please?
> 
> Mixing registering sub-objects before and after the instance is a bit
> of an anti-pattern. Easy to introduce bugs during reload and reset /
> error recovery. I thought that's what you were saying as well.

I was thinking of a case where an object is dynamic and might get added
based on events occurring after the devlink was registered.

But the more I think about it the less that makes sense. What events
would cause a whole subobject to be registerd which we wouldn't already
know about during initialization of devlink?

We do need some dynamic support because situations like "add port" will
add a port and then the ports subresources after the main devlink, but I
think that is already supported well and we'd add the port sub-resources
at the same time as the port.

But thinking more on this, there isn't really another good example since
we'd register things like health reporters, regions, resources, etc all
during initialization. Each of these sub objects may have dynamic
portions (ex: region captures, health events, etc) but the need for the
object should be known about during init time if its supported by the
device driver.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-11 21:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-06  6:33 [PATCH net-next 0/9] devlink: remove the wait-for-references on unregister Jakub Kicinski
2023-01-06  6:33 ` [PATCH net-next 1/9] devlink: bump the instance index directly when iterating Jakub Kicinski
2023-01-06 12:17   ` Jiri Pirko
2023-01-06  6:33 ` [PATCH net-next 2/9] devlink: update the code in netns move to latest helpers Jakub Kicinski
2023-01-06  6:33 ` [PATCH net-next 3/9] devlink: protect devlink->dev by the instance lock Jakub Kicinski
2023-01-06 12:18   ` Jiri Pirko
2023-01-06  6:33 ` [PATCH net-next 4/9] devlink: always check if the devlink instance is registered Jakub Kicinski
2023-01-06 12:41   ` Jiri Pirko
2023-01-06 17:03   ` Jacob Keller
2023-01-06 21:19     ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-01-07  9:05       ` Jiri Pirko
2023-01-06  6:33 ` [PATCH net-next 5/9] devlink: remove the registration guarantee of references Jakub Kicinski
2023-01-06 12:42   ` Jiri Pirko
2023-01-06  6:33 ` [PATCH net-next 6/9] devlink: don't require setting features before registration Jakub Kicinski
2023-01-06 12:43   ` Jiri Pirko
2023-01-06  6:34 ` [PATCH net-next 7/9] devlink: allow registering parameters after the instance Jakub Kicinski
2023-01-06 12:55   ` Jiri Pirko
2023-01-06 21:22     ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-01-07  9:20       ` Jiri Pirko
2023-01-10  0:21       ` Jacob Keller
2023-01-10 16:35         ` Jiri Pirko
2023-01-10 20:22           ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-01-11  9:32             ` Jiri Pirko
2023-01-11 16:45               ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-01-11 21:29                 ` Jacob Keller [this message]
2023-01-12  7:07                   ` Leon Romanovsky
2023-01-12 14:59                     ` Jiri Pirko
2023-01-12 19:58                       ` Leon Romanovsky
2023-01-13  7:50                         ` Jiri Pirko
2023-01-15  8:35                           ` Leon Romanovsky
2023-01-16 10:33                             ` Jiri Pirko
2023-01-16 11:25                               ` Leon Romanovsky
2023-01-12 19:20                     ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-01-12 20:09                       ` Leon Romanovsky
2023-01-12 22:44                         ` Jacob Keller
2023-01-13  6:45                           ` Leon Romanovsky
2023-01-13  7:53                             ` Jiri Pirko
2023-01-11 13:21   ` Jiri Pirko
2023-01-06  6:34 ` [PATCH net-next 8/9] netdevsim: rename a label Jakub Kicinski
2023-01-06 12:56   ` Jiri Pirko
2023-01-06  6:34 ` [PATCH net-next 9/9] netdevsim: move devlink registration under the instance lock Jakub Kicinski
2023-01-06 15:49   ` Jiri Pirko
2023-01-06 13:10 ` [PATCH net-next 0/9] devlink: remove the wait-for-references on unregister patchwork-bot+netdevbpf
2023-01-06 15:49 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-01-06 17:06 ` Jacob Keller

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