From: David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com>
To: Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
David Ahern <dsahern@kernel.org>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org
Cc: davem@davemloft.net, kuba@kernel.org,
prashantbhole.linux@gmail.com, jasowang@redhat.com,
brouer@redhat.com, toke@redhat.com, toshiaki.makita1@gmail.com,
john.fastabend@gmail.com, ast@kernel.org, kafai@fb.com,
songliubraving@fb.com, yhs@fb.com, andriin@fb.com,
David Ahern <dahern@digitalocean.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 bpf-next 09/15] net: Support xdp in the Tx path for packets as an skb
Date: Tue, 12 May 2020 14:11:45 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <f8b6c6fe-2eef-3539-395f-694cfbdcc8a5@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <52e49a06-8bd9-1286-da7a-624472eb020d@gmail.com>
On 4/29/20 6:17 PM, David Ahern wrote:
>> Overall, for the regular stack, I expect the performance of XDP egress
>> to be
>> worse than e.g. tc egress, for example, when TSO is disabled but not GSO
>> then
>> you parse the same packet multiple times given post-GSO whereas with tc
>> egress
>> it would operate just fine on a GSO skb. Plus all the limitations
>> generic XDP
>> has with skb_cloned(skb), skb_is_nonlinear(skb), etc, where we need to
>> linearize
>> so calling it 'XDP egress' might lead to false assumptions. Did you do a
>> comparison
>> on that as well?
>
After another round of staring at the code and running various tests, I
will concede the skb path for a few reasons:
1. all appropriate hooks for running an XDP egress program on skbs are
very close to the same point where the tc hook is,
2. the changes needed to handle xdp programs on skbs combined with the
performance impacts those changes bring (e.g., cloned skb, nonlinear skb
disabling GSO, etc), and
3. xdp programs and cls-bpf programs can share data (ie., maps) and
program can be similar enough that the overhead of 2 programs with
separate attach points is reasonable (e.g., I was able to adapt a
firewall so that it works for both paths and the only difference is
setting data and data_end based on context).
What that means is that an xdp_egress program would only apply to
xdp_frames redirected from another interface.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-05-12 20:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-04-27 22:46 [PATCH v4 bpf-next 00/15] net: Add support for XDP in egress path David Ahern
2020-04-27 22:46 ` [PATCH v4 bpf-next 01/15] net: Refactor convert_to_xdp_frame David Ahern
2020-04-27 22:46 ` [PATCH v4 bpf-next 02/15] net: uapi for XDP programs in the egress path David Ahern
2020-04-27 22:46 ` [PATCH v4 bpf-next 03/15] net: Add XDP setup and query commands for Tx programs David Ahern
2020-04-27 22:46 ` [PATCH v4 bpf-next 04/15] net: Add BPF_XDP_EGRESS as a bpf_attach_type David Ahern
2020-04-27 22:46 ` [PATCH v4 bpf-next 05/15] xdp: Add xdp_txq_info to xdp_buff David Ahern
2020-04-27 22:46 ` [PATCH v4 bpf-next 06/15] net: Rename do_xdp_generic to do_xdp_generic_rx David Ahern
2020-04-27 22:46 ` [PATCH v4 bpf-next 07/15] net: rename netif_receive_generic_xdp to do_generic_xdp_core David Ahern
2020-04-27 22:46 ` [PATCH v4 bpf-next 08/15] net: set XDP egress program on netdevice David Ahern
2020-04-27 22:46 ` [PATCH v4 bpf-next 09/15] net: Support xdp in the Tx path for packets as an skb David Ahern
2020-04-28 15:05 ` Daniel Borkmann
2020-04-30 0:17 ` David Ahern
2020-05-12 20:11 ` David Ahern [this message]
2020-04-27 22:46 ` [PATCH v4 bpf-next 10/15] net: Support xdp in the Tx path for xdp_frames David Ahern
2020-04-27 22:46 ` [PATCH v4 bpf-next 11/15] libbpf: Add egress XDP support David Ahern
2020-04-27 22:46 ` [PATCH v4 bpf-next 12/15] bpftool: Add support for XDP egress David Ahern
2020-04-28 8:08 ` Quentin Monnet
2020-04-27 22:46 ` [PATCH v4 bpf-next 13/15] selftest: Add test for xdp_egress David Ahern
2020-04-27 22:46 ` [PATCH v4 bpf-next 14/15] selftest: Add xdp_egress attach tests David Ahern
2020-04-27 22:46 ` [PATCH v4 bpf-next 15/15] samples/bpf: add XDP egress support to xdp1 David Ahern
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