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From: Eric Woudstra <ericwouds@gmail.com>
To: Florian Westphal <fw@strlen.de>
Cc: Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org>,
	Jozsef Kadlecsik <kadlec@netfilter.org>,
	Nikolay Aleksandrov <razor@blackwall.org>,
	Ido Schimmel <idosch@nvidia.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	Simon Horman <horms@kernel.org>,
	netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org, bridge@lists.linux.dev,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v11 nf-next 1/2] netfilter: bridge: Add conntrack double vlan and pppoe
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2025 20:33:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fc34e774-e264-492c-9ecb-20eaf7bd87e8@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250408163931.GA11581@breakpoint.cc>



On 4/8/25 6:39 PM, Florian Westphal wrote:
> Eric Woudstra <ericwouds@gmail.com> wrote:
>> This adds the capability to conntrack 802.1ad, QinQ, PPPoE and PPPoE-in-Q
>> packets that are passing a bridge.
> 
> Conntrack is l2 agnostic, so this either requires distinct
> ip addresses in the vlans/pppoe tunneled traffic or users
> need to configure connection tracking zones manually to
> ensure there are no collisions or traffic merges (i.e.,
> packet x from PPPoE won't be merged with frag from a vlan).
> 
> Actually reading  nf_ct_br_defrag4/6 it seems existing
> code already has this bug :/
> 
> I currently don't see a fix for this problem.
> Can't add L2 addresses to conntrack since those aren't
> unique accross vlans/tunnels and they can change anyway
> even mid-stream, we can't add ifindexes into the mix
> as we'd miss all reply traffic, can't use the vlan tag
> since it can be vlan-in-vlan etc.
> 
> So likely, we have to live with this.
> 
> Maybe refuse to track (i.e. ACCEPT) vlan/8021ad qinq, etc.
> traffic if the skb has no template with a zone attached to it?
> 
> This would at least push 'address collisions' into the
> 'incorrect ruleset configuration' domain.

Thanks for the input. I will look in to it and see if I can also add it
to the test script.

The thing is, single vlan (802.1Q) can be conntracked without setting up
a zone. I've only added Q-in-Q, AD and PPPoE-in-Q. Since single Q (L2)
can be conntracked, I thought the same will apply to other L2 tags.

So would single Q also need this restriction added in your opinion?


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-04-08 18:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-08 14:26 [PATCH v11 nf-next 0/2] conntrack: bridge: add double vlan, pppoe and pppoe-in-q Eric Woudstra
2025-04-08 14:26 ` [PATCH v11 nf-next 1/2] netfilter: bridge: Add conntrack double vlan and pppoe Eric Woudstra
2025-04-08 16:39   ` Florian Westphal
2025-04-08 16:40     ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2025-04-08 18:33     ` Eric Woudstra [this message]
2025-04-08 18:48       ` Florian Westphal
2025-04-08 18:56         ` Eric Woudstra
2025-04-08 14:26 ` [PATCH v11 nf-next 2/2] netfilter: nft_chain_filter: Add bridge " Eric Woudstra

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