From: Pavel Begunkov <asml.silence@gmail.com>
To: Mina Almasry <almasrymina@google.com>, Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v18 07/14] memory-provider: dmabuf devmem memory provider
Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2024 16:45:50 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <fc6a8f0a-cdb4-4705-a08f-7033ef15213e@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHS8izMH4UhD+UDYqMjt9d=gu-wpGPQBLyewzVrCWRyoVtQcgA@mail.gmail.com>
On 8/9/24 15:10, Mina Almasry wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 8, 2024 at 10:24 PM Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org> wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 8 Aug 2024 16:36:24 -0400 Mina Almasry wrote:
>>>> How do you know that the driver:
>>>> - supports net_iov at all (let's not make implicit assumptions based
>>>> on presence of queue API);
>>>> - supports net_iov in current configuration (eg header-data split is
>>>> enabled)
>>>> - supports net_iov for _this_ pool (all drivers must have separate
>>>> buffer pools for headers and data for this to work, some will use
>>>> page pool for both)
>>>>
>>>> What comes to mind is adding an "I can gobble up net_iovs from this
>>>> pool" flag in page pool params (the struct that comes from the driver),
>>>
>>> This already sorta exists in the current iteration, although maybe in
>>> an implicit way. As written, drivers need to set params.queue,
>>> otherwise core will not attempt to grab the mp information from
>>> params.queue. A driver can set params.queue for its data pages pool
>>> and not set it for the headers pool. AFAICT that deals with all 3
>>> issues you present above.
>>>
>>> The awkward part is if params.queue starts getting used for other
>>> reasons rather than passing mp configuration, but as of today that's
>>> not the case so I didn't add the secondary flag. If you want a second
>>> flag to be added preemptively, I can do that, no problem. Can you
>>> confirm params.queue is not good enough?
>>
>> I'd prefer a flag. The setting queue in a param struct is not a good
>> API for conveying that the page pool is for netmem payloads only.
>>
>>>> and then on the installation path we can check if after queue reset
>>>> the refcount of the binding has increased. If it did - driver has
>>>> created a pool as we expected, otherwise - fail, something must be off.
>>>> Maybe that's a bit hacky?
>>>
>>> What's missing is for core to check at binding time that the driver
>>> supports net_iov. I had relied on the implicit presence of the
>>> queue-API.
>>>
>>> What you're proposing works, but AFAICT it's quite hacky, yes. I
>>> basically need to ASSERT_RTNL in net_devmem_binding_get() to ensure
>>> nothing can increment the refcount while the binding is happening so
>>> that the refcount check is valid.
>>
>> True. Shooting from the hip, but we could walk the page pools of the
>> netdev and find the one that has the right mp installed, and matches
>> queue? The page pools are on a list hooked up to the netdev, trivial
>> to walk.
>>
>
> I think this is good, and it doesn't seem hacky to me, because we can
> check the page_pools of the netdev while we hold rtnl, so we can be
> sure nothing is messing with the pp configuration in the meantime.
> Like you say below it does validate the driver rather than rely on the
> driver saying it's doing the right thing. I'll look into putting this
> in the next version.
Why not have a flag set by the driver and advertising whether it
supports providers or not, which should be checked for instance in
netdev_rx_queue_restart()? If set, the driver should do the right
thing. That's in addition to a new pp_params flag explicitly telling
if pp should use providers. It's more explicit and feels a little
less hacky.
--
Pavel Begunkov
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-08-09 15:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-08-05 21:25 [PATCH net-next v18 00/14] Device Memory TCP Mina Almasry
2024-08-05 21:25 ` [PATCH net-next v18 01/14] netdev: add netdev_rx_queue_restart() Mina Almasry
2024-08-05 21:25 ` [PATCH net-next v18 02/14] net: netdev netlink api to bind dma-buf to a net device Mina Almasry
2024-08-05 21:25 ` [PATCH net-next v18 03/14] netdev: support binding dma-buf to netdevice Mina Almasry
2024-08-06 20:37 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-05 21:25 ` [PATCH net-next v18 04/14] netdev: netdevice devmem allocator Mina Almasry
2024-08-06 20:47 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-05 21:25 ` [PATCH net-next v18 05/14] page_pool: move dmaddr helpers to .c file Mina Almasry
2024-08-06 20:42 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-05 21:25 ` [PATCH net-next v18 06/14] page_pool: devmem support Mina Almasry
2024-08-05 21:25 ` [PATCH net-next v18 07/14] memory-provider: dmabuf devmem memory provider Mina Almasry
2024-08-06 20:59 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-08 20:36 ` Mina Almasry
2024-08-09 2:24 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-09 14:10 ` Mina Almasry
2024-08-09 15:45 ` Pavel Begunkov [this message]
2024-08-10 3:52 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-11 2:21 ` Mina Almasry
2024-08-11 21:51 ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-08-12 17:57 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-12 18:55 ` Mina Almasry
2024-08-12 19:10 ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-08-12 23:57 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-13 2:31 ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-08-13 14:39 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-13 15:11 ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-08-13 15:26 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-12 18:57 ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-08-12 19:04 ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-08-13 0:15 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-13 1:56 ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-08-13 8:39 ` Mina Almasry
2024-08-13 9:03 ` Mina Almasry
2024-08-13 14:33 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-08-05 21:25 ` [PATCH net-next v18 08/14] net: support non paged skb frags Mina Almasry
2024-08-05 21:25 ` [PATCH net-next v18 09/14] net: add support for skbs with unreadable frags Mina Almasry
2024-08-05 21:25 ` [PATCH net-next v18 10/14] tcp: RX path for devmem TCP Mina Almasry
2024-08-05 21:25 ` [PATCH net-next v18 11/14] net: add SO_DEVMEM_DONTNEED setsockopt to release RX frags Mina Almasry
2024-08-05 21:25 ` [PATCH net-next v18 12/14] net: add devmem TCP documentation Mina Almasry
2024-08-05 21:25 ` [PATCH net-next v18 13/14] selftests: add ncdevmem, netcat for devmem TCP Mina Almasry
2024-08-05 21:25 ` [PATCH net-next v18 14/14] netdev: add dmabuf introspection Mina Almasry
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